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Re: Iphone case, issue with pressing the inserts

Posted: 28 Dec 2013, 09:14
by roguechloe
Hi everyone,

could really use some help please. A few weeks ago the metal inserts for my iphone cases started pressing wrong, it was a man united design so red with other detailing on it, when i lifted it off the paper after pressing the red looked like a dirty orange, the blacks and golds didnt look right either but not as bad as the red. At first i thought maybe it was the temp or time but tried variations of both and all came out the same, so i borrowed a thermal image camera to check the heat press was properly getting to temp and it was, i then thought there might be an issue with my sublimation printer but the printout looks perfectly fine, then i thought it might be the paper so i tried printing a couple of mugs and theu came out exactly as they should, so im at my wits end, but it means i cant print phone cases tablets or anything else that requires sublimation printing with a heat press. does anybody know what it could be thats going wrong?? Any help would be greatly appreciated, thankyou

Re: Iphone case, issue with pressing the inserts

Posted: 28 Dec 2013, 10:40
by Quinsfan
Hi Rouge
I am a newbie here so I don't want to tell you how to suck eggs but I made the mistake of not removing the protective film from the metal inserts. It is a thin clear film that unless you know it is there you cant see it. Some suppliers have a blue film so it is obvious. Also does the image left on the paper have a shine to it, if so then it is defiantly your problem.
I have a post on here already with some photos
.http://www.dyesubforum.co.uk/vbforum/sh ... #post80023
Hope you resolve your problem.

Re: Iphone case, issue with pressing the inserts

Posted: 28 Dec 2013, 11:02
by roguechloe
Hi, yes i am definitely removing the film, ive also double checked that im printing on the right side of the paper aswell,

Re: Iphone case, issue with pressing the inserts

Posted: 28 Dec 2013, 12:20
by Paul
You didnt tell ANY details about your printing. Except that you trying to print design that not belongs to you :)

printer
time
temp
icc or not
image sharp or blured?
any lines acros your prints?

Re: Iphone case, issue with pressing the inserts

Posted: 28 Dec 2013, 21:28
by BlackCoffee
roguechloe;81309 wrote:Hi everyone,

could really use some help please. A few weeks ago the metal inserts for my iphone cases started pressing wrong, it was a man united design so red with other detailing on it, when i lifted it off the paper after pressing the red looked like a dirty orange, the blacks and golds didnt look right either but not as bad as the red. At first i thought maybe it was the temp or time but tried variations of both and all came out the same, so i borrowed a thermal image camera to check the heat press was properly getting to temp and it was, i then thought there might be an issue with my sublimation printer but the printout looks perfectly fine, then i thought it might be the paper so i tried printing a couple of mugs and theu came out exactly as they should, so im at my wits end, but it means i cant print phone cases tablets or anything else that requires sublimation printing with a heat press. does anybody know what it could be thats going wrong?? Any help would be greatly appreciated, thankyou
I have found different metals print up differently. Some of the aluminium pieces are not as colourful when printed compared to other metals.

Re: Iphone case, issue with pressing the inserts

Posted: 30 Dec 2013, 10:49
by roguechloe
It doesnt have the badge on it, just bright red background with a name in gold writing and a black lion, with font like man united, ricoh sg3110dn, ive tried 190 for 60 seconds which is what i always use, i tried 200 for 120 seconds, same result. Sharp image, and there are no lines on the printout. And im printing on the same metal as i always do, and from the same supplier. They were printing perfectly and then one day they started coming out all wrong, i havent changed aything, i will post a pic if that helps

Re: Iphone case, issue with pressing the inserts

Posted: 30 Dec 2013, 10:52
by roguechloe
[ATTACH=CONFIG]2311[/ATTACH]The top one is the printout, and these are the results im getting

Re: Iphone case, issue with pressing the inserts

Posted: 30 Dec 2013, 11:11
by JMugs
190 for 50 seconds is mine.

With you on the frustration side. Is it a new batch?

Janners

Re: Iphone case, issue with pressing the inserts

Posted: 30 Dec 2013, 11:21
by Paul
How about trying less temp? 170c. I thought ricoh needs less heat? Another bad news is that reds in ricoh printers are very dificult to correct. Even with custom icc.
btw.there is a badge :)

Re: Iphone case, issue with pressing the inserts

Posted: 30 Dec 2013, 15:21
by roguechloe
No new batches, everything has been exactly the same, before i started printing i had to do a head flush and clean on the printer as i had some lines appear, but i dont understand why this would have affected the pressing of it.

yea paul ive tried lower temp aswell, and yes :), there was a badge on the original design but i had the same thought as you so i changed it and the new design wont be having a badge on it