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Re: Roland versastudio BN-20
Posted: 06 May 2015, 16:53
by Nemo
socialgiraffe;101099 wrote:No need to apologise
A Roland will need Versaworks to print and cut. It comes free with the printer. When I first had my machine I forgot to get an additional computer to run the RIP. I legged it up to the secondhand computer shop and purchased the cheapest web book there. It cost £60.00. I figured it will do until I get a decent spec machine. The web tablet lasted 2 years! In other words, if you are spending 5k then a couple of hundred on a small PC will not be an issue.
The rip software will run from most file types, but ideally EPS files which you can obviously create on a MAC.
Thanks Social Giraffe, I guess you're right on that point, I just really don't like PC's.. I'm a mac girl!
Re: Roland versastudio BN-20
Posted: 06 May 2015, 17:00
by Dave271069
socialgiraffe;101101 wrote:Not sure on that price fella, I would say its nearer 20pish in a real time environment. Whatever you think you have in terms of work for a printer, you need to treble it to justify one. So if you think you could get £500 worth of work from Company X, you need to think about getting two more companies like that.
Your right, think im thinking of amount of ink costs (not including materiels, application tape etc )
Re: Roland versastudio BN-20
Posted: 06 May 2015, 17:21
by Paul
ArferMo;101086 wrote:Can be left for weeks..... twice a day it cycles itself to keep the heads clear very minimal ink use.
like ricoh then? self cleaning process... Just to leave it swiched on...
ALso... cant find the answer anywhere...
if i cut the roll i will have 260mm roll leftover. can smaller rolls like this be used? or they wont be accepted by machine?
Re: Roland versastudio BN-20
Posted: 06 May 2015, 17:27
by Stitch Up
My only gripe, if you can call it that, is that you have to have either metallic or white ink loaded, both are expensive! If you don't use it that often, it ends up in the waste tank.
The moral is, 'use it or lose it' - it does look spectacular though
Re: Roland versastudio BN-20
Posted: 06 May 2015, 17:57
by phoenixalpha
socialgiraffe;101029 wrote:Price wise, I have just purchased my second Roland, this one is wider (its a 540) and has been configured for UV printing with the new LIGHTBOX bolt on, it was 8.5k plus VAT as it was ex demo (three days), so there are bargains to be had, especially straight after Sign and Digital, I suspect the bargains for this year are gone now, but if you can wait then pop along and talk to the dealers we were offered fairly new machines for a fraction of the price.
This has been purchased within 3 years of purchasing the first one. So Stitch Up is right, get it right and they are a cash cow
What is the LIGHTBOX?
Re: Roland versastudio BN-20
Posted: 06 May 2015, 18:00
by ArferMo
You cant use just any media widths they have to fall in to limits:-
150 to 170mm
200 to 235mm
287 to 322mm
348 to 383mm
393 to 429mm
439 to 474mm
487 to 151mm
In your case I would cut ~300 off
Re: Roland versastudio BN-20
Posted: 06 May 2015, 18:23
by Stitch Up
We have our rolls 610mm slit at 500mm for the BN20.
Cost of ink? We buy 440ml carts for our BN. Cost of print - negligible, I don't even bother working it out.
If you can develop a market for the tupe of stuff the BN20 will do, you should be making some good profits.
Re: Roland versastudio BN-20
Posted: 06 May 2015, 18:33
by ArferMo
Are you binning 18% of your roll the 110mm offcut. Why not split 150 or 160 off and then you can use it all.
Re: Roland versastudio BN-20
Posted: 06 May 2015, 18:47
by Stitch Up
Yup! To be honest, I've never really thought of it - the profit margins are very good and vinyl so cheap.
I might slit as you suggest next time and see how it effects the way we print & cut.
Re: Roland versastudio BN-20
Posted: 06 May 2015, 18:53
by Paul
OK. I finished my email exchange with xpres sales guys and they doing me a deal.
Just not sure about vinyl as there is quite few of them and not to sure what is the difference between them.
is that vinyl any good?
http://www.xpres.co.uk/p-8742-textile-t ... xpres.aspx