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Re: blacks gong brown again

Posted: 28 Jan 2013, 01:35
by bigj2552
this one on the left is yours -which turned out black compared to mine -that was with the profile you made a while back.
i put the profile to photo print and ALL colour enhancements ON,and it came out even better/blacker.

hard to capture right in this light i have paul

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj487/kustomde/DSCF1412_zps64c4ff36.jpg



Re: blacks gong brown again

Posted: 28 Jan 2013, 01:48
by bigj2552
so tell me doc - is it bad ? - do i have to have it healed ?.....tell me straight - i can take it

or was the original pic just crap ?

and how you get the black - black ? or did you get another pic ?

Re: blacks gong brown again

Posted: 29 Jan 2013, 14:09
by bigj2552
found out the problem with colours !

photoshop had switched the printer settings i had saved to "printer controls colour" - instead of "photoshop controls colour" :rolleyes:

this has never happened before - it has now, and i will be looking for it again in the future. - :rolleyes:

Re: blacks gong brown again

Posted: 07 Apr 2013, 18:38
by cupsforcops
I haven't read all of the answers but this was a classic problem with litho printing. Blacks can sometimes look dull depending on the type of paper. There is a way of getting round this called a "shiner". A shiner is a 20% minimum cyan layer underneath the black. It gives it a rich look. You can up the cyan even higher. Works on litho, whether it would work on sublimation I don't know.

You would need to change the trapping on your software so the black overprinted the blue, not knock it out.

Re: blacks gong brown again

Posted: 04 Jun 2013, 22:44
by cupsforcops
Going back to my old typesetting days and litho printing, have you tried adding some Cyan to the black, about 20%? That is known as a rich black. Blacks look grubby by comparison. Make up a new colour, and make it a mix of Black and 20% Cyan and use that instead of the black. Should make a big difference.

Re: blacks gong brown again

Posted: 06 Jun 2013, 10:20
by Printcess Jen
this is a good post to learn from, all it takes is one setting to knock out and your colours go to pot! I had this problems with Ricoh and the reds coming out pink....turns out my settings werent implemented properly! :wink:

Re: blacks gong brown again

Posted: 06 Jun 2013, 18:39
by cupsforcops
Trapping is a tricky thing which most people don't know about. Modern software tends to work out trapping automatically, but with things like shiners, it's a manual change needed. Designers are a nightmare when it comes to trapping. If it looks good on screen they assume it will look good in print. The Ebay logo is a classic example of trapping changed on purpose.