Photo realistic - WoW 7.7 or TTC

[Ask_Alan]

Photos, use OBM, its cheaper and easier then WoW. All you need is a craft knife and a straight edge to trim the white off the edge.

On the 150 / 140 temps at 150 you may get problems with adhesion between the I and the garment - run a damp cloth over the I before peeling off the garment.

alan

[logobear]

WE press WOW at 137c and provided the garment is totally fully absolutely cold, then peel is easy from the garment.
Re the first peel, again at 137c - if you go much higher tiny parts of the print can fuse to the part 1 paper instead of transfereing to the part 2.
We keep an oversised A4 sheet of the oven guard specific for 1st press, and keep it top of the stack for the peel, can get warm fingers, but don't think increasing the temp is the answer.
As I mentioned, and Alan agreed, OBM is the product for photos on dark garments, easy to use, and cheaper than wow.
As mentioned, can use A6 sheets

[Gygafo]

Photos, use OBM, its cheaper and easier then WoW. All you need is a craft knife and a straight edge to trim the white off the edge.

On the 150 / 140 temps at 150 you may get problems with adhesion between the I and the garment - run a damp cloth over the I before peeling off the garment.

alan

WE press WOW at 137c and provided the garment is totally fully absolutely cold, then peel is easy from the garment.
Re the first peel, again at 137c - if you go much higher tiny parts of the print can fuse to the part 1 paper instead of transfereing to the part 2.
We keep an oversised A4 sheet of the oven guard specific for 1st press, and keep it top of the stack for the peel, can get warm fingers, but don't think increasing the temp is the answer.
As I mentioned, and Alan agreed, OBM is the product for photos on dark garments, easy to use, and cheaper than wow.
As mentioned, can use A6 sheets

I spoke too soon in yesterday's post about getting the WoW 7.7 first peel down to a tee. Last week 143 degrees, 60 seconds gave me six transfers with no problem. I've not altered pressure. But, after the first couple of failed attempts tonight I upped the temp to 150 with no luck, brought it down to 140 still no luck. Just wasted seven or eight I & M sheets trying to get a result but without any success so have thrown in the towel. I'm not very happy at the moment with WoW 7.7 or the C711WT which is costing me another fortune in plain paper to keep it clean. "grumpy grumble".

Cheers!
Nigel

[socialgiraffe]

I'm not very happy at the moment with WoW 7.7 or the C711WT which is costing me another fortune in plain paper to keep it clean. "grumpy grumble".

We have all been there mate, not necessarily with TMT or WOW, but digital print in general. However I will say that if you pop down to TMT's offices they will go through everything with you and let you spunk as much of their paper as you want until you get it right. That is something that can only be said of reputable suppliers and once you have mastered it you will realise that the purchase(s) you have made are well worth it.

[Gygafo]

We have all been there mate, not necessarily with TMT or WOW, but digital print in general. However I will say that if you pop down to TMT's offices they will go through everything with you and let you spunk as much of their paper as you want until you get it right. That is something that can only be said of reputable suppliers and once you have mastered it you will realise that the purchase(s) you have made are well worth it.

Hi Socialgiraffe,
Cant really knock TMT as their service is and has been excellent, suppose I'm just upset at being incapable, stupid, or have some duff kit. I just cant get my head around being able to produce a cracking product with WOW one minute and a few days later it's all turned upside down and no settings have been changed! The print process is not an issue, the peel once the transfer has been applied isn't an issue either, It's the bloomin first peel of the M & I sheet... I'm totally lost!

I've been producing and selling digital photo prints for many years now and remember the real early days with dread, greens were blue, pinks were purple ha ha ha! Nowadays, everything is calibrated, profiled, and printed to a canon pro 1 printer (using original inks and pro media) and what I see on screen is what I get on paper. I cant ever remember that been process been as difficult or expensive as getting to grips with WoW 7.7 though!

Cheers
Nigel.

[socialgiraffe]

It's the bloomin first peel of the M & I sheet

Don't get me wrong Nigel, I didn't think you were slating TMT, just saying that we have all been there mate. I also had problems with the first peel and hence why I now have my press very hot. I do not have the problems that Alan or Logo bear suggests which could be that my Adkins is not calibrated correctly.

But it might be worth loading your press into your car and trooping down to TMT for the day. They are very good and will go through everything just to make sure you have everything spot on.

[Earl Smith]

Looking at the Magic Touch web site in Germany there are two types of OBM. The 5.3 and the 5.6. Which is the best one to buy for t-shirt printing?
Over to you Ask-Alan....

[WePrintForYou]

The more and more I research this style of transfer the more I'm put off by it.

I took the trip to logobears about 6 months ago and it looks like a great deal of work.

[Gygafo]

Don't get me wrong Nigel, I didn't think you were slating TMT, just saying that we have all been there mate. I also had problems with the first peel and hence why I now have my press very hot. I do not have the problems that Alan or Logo bear suggests which could be that my Adkins is not calibrated correctly.

But it might be worth loading your press into your car and trooping down to TMT for the day. They are very good and will go through everything just to make sure you have everything spot on.

Hi Socialgiraffe,
sounds like that might be a plan. However, I've tried (and wasted even more media) with the press at 150 and 155 degrees @ 50 seconds and also at 140 degrees @ 60 seconds - all with exactly the same results, small bits coming away during the peel. Can't say it's not enough pressure because I'm bending the table legs closing the press! The other thing that is really annoying and frustrating is that one minute it works great and the next it doesn't want to play at all. I'm getting proper miffed with the whole WoW process now so I'm going to do something that I haven't done for years... go to the pub for a couple of pints! Cheers mate!

Cheers
Nigel.

[logobear]

Earl, type of obm depends on your printer