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Re: Conflicting information need help.
Posted: 30 Jun 2019, 12:29
by socialgiraffe
You are using the GENIE III settings which is a much quicker mug press.
The Genie I and II settings are 200 degrees for 45-60 seconds which is about right for a standard mug press.
A Genie III is as you have already said 190 @ 40 seconds.
I have both a Genie II and Genie III and the III is a much quicker press hence the time and temperature difference.
Re: Conflicting information need help.
Posted: 30 Jun 2019, 12:35
by Mrteajunkie
socialgiraffe;138976 wrote:You are using the GENIE III settings which is a much quicker mug press.
The Genie I and II settings are 200 degrees for 45-60 seconds which is about right for a standard mug press.
A Genie III is as you have already said 190 @ 40 seconds.
I have both a Genie II and Genie III and the III is a much quicker press hence the time and temperature difference.
So would you recommend 190c for 45 seconds to start or something different?
Re: Conflicting information need help.
Posted: 30 Jun 2019, 12:37
by socialgiraffe
It kind of depends on your mug press, but I would say that unless you have one of these "quick" presses then yes, start at 190 for 45-60 seconds.
I would normally go in the middle, so 190 for 52 seconds ish
Re: Conflicting information need help.
Posted: 30 Jun 2019, 13:53
by webtrekker
What it all boils down to, as I said earlier, is that there are no hard and fast rules that will give you perfect results on your first try. You will have to be prepared to lose some water bottles during the 'experimental' phase. I've gone through loads of items until I have found the 'sweet spot' with regard to pressures, times and teperatures. Even when you have the right settings you'll find that sublimation isn't an exact science that produces the same results every time. There are just too many variables, including air temperature, humidity, cleanliness of the print and surroundings, ink spatter, banding, tracking marks, Brexit, the Russians, .............. to name a few!
In fact, I've virtually given up now on sublimating mugs. I have more success with aluminium sheet, keyrings, polyester bags, etc and I'm doing better by selling higher-profit items that involve a bit of mechanical construction than the 'stack-em-high, sell-em-cheap' items that everyone else is selling.
Re: Conflicting information need help.
Posted: 30 Jun 2019, 14:10
by Mrteajunkie
The sublimation side is more of a because it’s wanted not for profit.
i wouldn’t normally do mugs and things but so many of my regular customers asked for them.