Embroidery Machine

[spongerobinson]

i can see them all! amazing! how long took you doing Winnie the pooh and the hang?

Have you special privileges Paul?? [emoji1] still can't see the others!

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[Paul]

not sure

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[spongerobinson]

Thanks Paul... Much appreciated! Viccar, that's some great work there! Very impressive.

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[viccar]

Thank Paul, not sure why they didnt show up.

I'll try to do a quick summary.

Think of an embroidery machine as your heat press, it just sews what you tell it.

and the embroidery software is your corel draw/photoshop

without the software you cant do that much, they all have inbuilt designs and some font, but they are limited.

Also how you hoop your items is very important, you need different stabilizers for different materials and sometimes washable topping (for toweling)

The software can be a bit of a learning curve.

The 750e is an entry level machine and i think stitches around 600 stitches per minute, whereas the pr655 does about 1000 a minute.

The 750e is only one colour at a time, the pr655 is 6 colours.

the hoops are smaller than the pr 655 and the bigger pr655 is much easier to hoop things like t shirts.

750e new around £900 pr655 new around £6000

If you just want to embroider, bibs, towels, comforters, babygrows ect the 750e is fine

If you want to set up an embroidery business, doing caps, tshirts, sweatshirts, workwear ect then you obviously would want the bigger machine.

Paul the poo design i think took about half hour, but apart from changing the thread you can do other things while its embroidering, it will stop once its finished that colour.

Best advice it to download free trials of the pe design, embird ect and try them out, then go to a sewing machine shop that sells embroidery madchines and ask for a demo, i went to BSK in bedford they have from the 750e right up to the Pr655 and inbetween.

[windyash]

Some nice designs there , can you embroider beanie hats with text / logo with one of these machines and shirts etc.? I know they are slower then the commercial machines but for one or two items it would be good to be able to do it.

[wayupnorth]

You may also want to consider the Janome 350e which is pitched at the same market as the Brother. Currently £900 including JR software to get things started. The Brother does not come with software. I purchased my 350e and upgraded the JR software to MBX which provides a lot of functionality and includes CorelDraw essentials. This is built into the MBX software and the workspace can switch from stitching to drawing in a single click. Other software such as embird has a more modular approach. Demo versions of NEXT and others are available but MBX is not. I located the 70 tutorial videos on the Janome YT site and watched every one before purchasing.... sad but necessary.

There are literally thousands of designs available in various formats for instant download and stitching. With decent software you can edit these to suit your needs or create from scratch. The advice about seeing machines in action is spot on but I did not have that luxury. Incidently I will be producing items for sale but only in small numbers. Some people use multiple single head machines as a business but still a big outlay.

Both machines are very capable and it was the software that tipped the balance for me. YMMV !.

[Amilne1]

Check if your dealer has any trade in machines available. Buy the best you can afford, minimum hoop 5x7". Test drive several machines and brands if you can. You can always go back to the store and test again until you are 100% happy! also ask about servicing etc! get costs! find out what's included with warranty etc? Also consider consumables, ie thread, stabiliser etc. sometimes cheaper to buy from eBay than a dealer. Don't be tempted to buy Chinese thread, buy quality embroidery thread, ie Madeira, Sulky, Marathon, Robison Anton. Some machines don't like thread so only buy a few spools to test
Embird software works out around £300 which allows you to digitise and do text, but you can buy modules as you need. Digitising takes time to learn. Many designs can be purchased for a few $s, plus there are loads of free designs available from many US designers, If your planning on doing logos it is sometimes cheaper to outsource than create yourself.
Hope this helps, Alison

[viccar]

Some nice designs there , can you embroider beanie hats with text / logo with one of these machines and shirts etc.? I know they are slower then the commercial machines but for one or two items it would be good to be able to do it.

I have done beanie hats on it and babygrows & tshirts, but they are fiddly to get right.

[Limara]

Janome 300E forget the expensive software and get Embird with font engine with that you will be able to easily edit designs and digitize almost any font ( not all digitize well ) with the extra giga hoop you will have a design field for split designs of 230 x 200mm and don't be put off not getting disney cards for it, you can pick up Disney designs from all over the internet and sew them with any machine.
With Embird you can also add digitizing and other plugins to the basic software at a later date if you need to.
Janome do have a extra of a cap hoop I find it easier to use sticky stablizer and the regular hoop.
I have done many stitch outs for my local dealer on both Brother and Janome Machines, The same designs were stitched on both machines on the same fabric with the same threads and stablizer, the stitch quality of the 350 machine compared with the brother 3000d which at the time was comparing a £500 machine to a £3000 machine and the Janome had a better stitch quality.

[windyash]

Well ive taken the plunge and a janome 350e will be here tomorrow!!!

Now to work out all the different backings , threads etc Im going to need