listawood and bms

[Justin]

I would like to say this forum is the best and would be lost with out it. So I would like to say a BIG thank you

Thank you jennywren, I work hard on the forum and appreciate all feedback

[Justin]

Suppliers that are members of the DSF appreciate that comments will (and have) been made about the service and products they offer. You can't please all the folk all of the time but it quickly becomes apparant that a company are willing to try.

I bet they do this is pure free advert for them. but what do we have fro that???

The biggest benefit from having suppliers as members of the forum is that they bring a vast range of experience and valuable advice. BMS in particular spend a lot of time helping people on the forum. I'm sure that suppliers have gained business through being members of the DSF but have no problem with this providing they are supplying a high level of customer service and product quality. I continue to ask that any member suppliers on the forum consider looking at discounts/benefits for other members only and we have recently seen a few such offers come through.

[Paul]

@Paul - Please remind me what the link was and more importantly what your comments were, I would have had a good reason for doing this I have no problem with members discussing suppliers providing all comments made are factual as as such can be backed up. My own comments regarding Listawood are from personal experience and I am aware that many people continue to buy form them and have nothing but praise.

it was in supplier section... I added new link and said I recomend them as they have cheaper vinyl then others but is very good quality. also I said they got rapid email customer service and very good service on phone. also I said P&P was cheaper then other suppliers,
any thing wrong with that????

The biggest benefit from having suppliers as members of the forum is that they bring a vast range of experience and valuable advice. BMS in particular spend a lot of time helping people on the forum. I'm sure that suppliers have gained business through being members of the DSF but have no problem with this providing they are supplying a high level of customer service and product quality. I continue to ask that any member suppliers on the forum consider looking at discounts/benefits for other members only and we have recently seen a few such offers come through.

there is no doubt that BMS is great source of knolage and spent lot of time on here helping people. I love when I see martin answering all that questions etc.... but I thought it is as it should be ?! Coz as far I remember it was part of the deal to have suppliers on this forum.
regards discounts and benefits for forum members I must say its next to nothing compare possibility of advertisment here. Sorry guys I think it must be said. lets dont forget that why we r here not on "old" forum.
rest of my consens on MSN Justin. as I think we need to work on few things here quick...

jennywren wrote:
I would like to say this forum is the best and would be lost with out it. So I would like to say a BIG thank you
Thank you jennywren, I work hard on the forum and appreciate

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[Justin]

Not sure why I would have removed this Paul, I would have given you a valid reason for doing so, I honestly cannot rememeber this. As you know, I encourage any new suppliers to be put onto the list.

There was certainly never any deal made with any suppliers. I accepted any supplier as a member and indeed encouraged it but not so that they could get any free advertising. If they choose to recommend products that their companies supply we have no problem with this. As long as every thread made doesn't blatently advertise their company. We looked at advertising to cover running costs and came to the conclusion that the majority of members would not accept this.

We've had many discussions over charging suppliers to use the forum as well as membership fees for all DSF members but have always come to the conclusion that this would not be a good direction to go in.
Whilst we have a great mix of members, from begginer through to experienced I believe that the suppliers on-board provide a great deal of help, do we really want to stop suppliers joining the forum? Maybe this is the way forward but as always and wherever possible I run the forum based upon feedback from members not necessarily on my own personal opinions (Maybe this is where I'm going wrong?!)

The reasons for setting up this forum were not because the 'old' forum was controlled by a single supplier. The initial reason was to give members somewhere to go whulst the old forum was sorted out. As that forum never came back to life the DSF has gained in popularity, it was never mean't as a replacement, just a stop gap.

If you need to PM or email Paul, please feel free to do so. I'm always open to discussions on making the DSF a better place to be.

[Paul]

Not sure why I would have removed this Paul, I would have given you a valid reason for doing so, I honestly cannot rememeber this. As you know, I encourage any new suppliers to be put onto the list.

oh nooo Justin. you misunderstud me you keept the link. you just deleted my coment about haw good they r

There was certainly never any deal made with any suppliers.

sorry. I did not mean official deal it was kind aggrement betwen us when we had that conversation about payed advertising etc... sorry for stiring..

The reasons for setting up this forum were not because the 'old' forum was controlled by a single supplier.

tru. but favorising only one supplier on forum means this same for me


rest on PM or email

[Justin]

As mentioned, all dye-sub suppliers were invited to the forum. Of the handful to respond only a couple have made any real effort to actually help out by offering good advise. I don't have any favourites and continue to buy from several suppliers including those that didn't respond to my emails.

We need to look at this in more detail and look for solutions. I don't think this is the thread to do it in, my appologies again to jennywren as this thread has moved into an area I'm sure you didn't want it to

[Paul]

lets clean it

[Andrew]

Been away for a week and looks like I missed the fun.

In all fairness, I don't think Listawood are that concerned on the small blank orders as they concentrate more on their Promo printing side.

As for this forum, all seems to be ticking along well and growing so well done Justin. Discounts will never be substantial unless it's worthwhile for a supplier and with the small margins and limited members here, I don't see much changing. There's a decent atmosphere here which is the most important thing to make it grow.

[Justin]

Thanks Andrew Some good points there. You do have to look from the suppliers side as well, I'm sure they're margins are pretty tight at the best of times so giving support on the forum I believe is a good trade off.

[Ian M]

I'm so sorry for what I have caused here. I feel very bad about all this now & I'm now wondering if it might be best if I just don't say anything again.

I think the forum is brilliant & I feel like you are amongst good friends with lots of advice & help. I for one love a lively debate as at the end you can look at all what has been said & then decide if you agree or disagree with others.

One thing that has blown me away in the dye sub world is how friendly most people are & also how much help & advice they offer to each other.

Ian