Today - (07.05.13) - Adobe killed the creative industry in total. Worldwide

[mgibbs]

Our internet connection went down sometime overnight so all internet access and external email was down when I walkied in this morning.

We were down until an engineer replaced a faulty bit of kit on-site at about 2pm

Fortunately we have a leased line so get an engineer out pronto.
With normal residential or business broadband over ADSL lines you have no service level agreement.

It doesn't encourage me to trust anything to the "cloud"

Mark

[ASLCreative]

It would appear many people are not sure what the cloud is.

Adobe are not proposing a Software as a service (SaaS) cloud.[h=3]
What Adobe are proposing is a hybrid cloud - the software is installed on your machine and it just checks you have a valid subscription. The software just "checks" into a remote database and checks you are still subscribed. This is nothing new, McAfee have been doing this for years.

In addition you have the option to access the Adobe Storage cloud. The storage cloud allows you to save/send/copy your work to the "Cloud" and retrieve it from anywhere in the world using a computer that has the correct software with access to an internet connection. The storage part is the cloud part.[/h]

There are many advantages and disadvantages of the various cloud platforms which we could all spend hours discussing the pros and cons, some people like it others not.

What you will find is in the future, devices in the home and work will access storage clouds to deliver personal information to you.

Cars will come with built in software that accesses a storage cloud via the internet connection on your mobile (or updates itself via wi fi when you park the car in a public car park, outside your home etc) to access things like your favourite music tracks, latest information from the car manufacturer, adverts, audio books etc. The information delivered will be personal to you and synced so it is always up to date.

Likewise your TV will access the cloud to suggest and deliver TV programs that are suited to your likes.

The great advantage of cloud storage is that you can access the information anywhere in the world through any compatible device. So when you are away on holiday you can listen to your favourite music tracks whilst sitting around the pool (via the hotel free wifi), waiting to catch a train or plane etc.

[phoenixalpha]

Oh I'm a big fan of cloudy things when they work. I will not be held to ransom on mission and company critical things that depend on the internet (which is improving but still not up to scratch for me - and I believe not a lot of others either). I also do not like being held to ransom on pay monthly software especially as they hold the virtual monopoly on creative software.

Who would run the risk of their entire file structure being online 24/7 and not having an issue every day. Sure I have a cloudy backup of all my files, but they are a tertiary backup of my primary drives and secondary raid backups. Backups are your friend, a pain to setup but once running when you aren't using your machines, are invaluable.

[Russ]

The vast majority of people's arguments against the Creative Cloud are unfounded - the software runs on your machine not in the 'cloud', 3-year cost of Creative Cloud is cheaper than the total cost of individual software, 3-year cost of just photoshop is cheaper in the CC than buying the software as standalone (and you get the Extended version, not the cheaper version), you can install the CC on two computers (Windows/Mac/Combination) - you can install on a third and deactivate one of the others and then reactivate as necessary.
Bottom line is, if all you need is cheaper less-functional software, then go buy it - it makes sense. If you want/need leading edge then go to the subscription.
Useful reading...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-575833 ... -not-very/,
http://www.adobe.com/uk/products/creativecloud/faq.html

[pisquee]

I think if any business that needs internet access to function, and I would guess that is many, then being reliant on one form of internet access is foolish - a backup is necessary, even if it is a pay as you go USB mobile broadband dongle. So, the argument that if your internet goes down, then so does your photoshop is an odd one, as so would a lot of other services you may rely on for your business - like your email, access to your website, dropbox (or similar),

[Fidget242]

I think if any business that needs internet access to function, and I would guess that is many, then being reliant on one form of internet access is foolish - a backup is necessary, even if it is a pay as you go USB mobile broadband dongle. So, the argument that if your internet goes down, then so does your photoshop is an odd one, as so would a lot of other services you may rely on for your business - like your email, access to your website, dropbox (or similar),

Exactly! Well said. The over-reactions about this is unbelievable. It's as though it's the end of photoshop in the design industry just because you have to use the internet once a month, lol.
We've only lost our internet a handful of times in the last 3 years - but it's easily solved by tethering an internet connection from a mobile phone's 3g signal. Not difficult...

[purpledragon]

Exactly! Well said. The over-reactions about this is unbelievable. It's as though it's the end of photoshop in the design industry just because you have to use the internet once a month, lol.
We've only lost our internet a handful of times in the last 3 years - but it's easily solved by tethering an internet connection from a mobile phone's 3g signal. Not difficult...

it is if you cant get a 3g signal

[phoenixalpha]

I just don't like the fact that it's moved onto a monthly subscription service *forcing* people to pay month after month. Yes the software is expensive but if I (or anyone) chose to stay with CS4 or CS5 because their finances don't allow them to upgrade well they shouldn't be forced to continually pay for the latest versions. I know a lot of people have ... *questionable* versions, and that's their call. I dislike Adobe forcing people to pay a monthly rate which they control *and can hike it all the way if they want to* and you cant do snot about it.

[purpledragon]

I just don't like the fact that it's moved onto a monthly subscription service *forcing* people to pay month after month. Yes the software is expensive but if I (or anyone) chose to stay with CS4 or CS5 because their finances don't allow them to upgrade well they shouldn't be forced to continually pay for the latest versions. I know a lot of people have ... *questionable* versions, and that's their call. I dislike Adobe forcing people to pay a monthly rate which they control *and can hike it all the way if they want to* and you cant do snot about it.

At the end of the day its Adobe's right to sell their product however they like wether we buy it or not is up to us If i wanted to sell my mugs on a monthly rental basis you may well laugh or not like it but its up to me how i conduct my business and the same with adobe or anyone else who uses such services we dont have an automatic right to buy outright the product but we do have the right to say no . Personally my version of photoshop is more than adiquate for what i do i dont think ive ever updated it since getting it and i'll carry on using it without having to pay a monthly subscription if you want all the new pops n whistles then i suppose you will have to bite the bullet or find an alternate piece of software at the end of the day if every7one said no they'd have to rethink it but that aint gonna happen

[JackB]

People will pay £50 a month on a 24 month contract to have the latest IPhone. So what is so bad payin £30 - £50 a month for software that can make you thousands of pounds a month/year.
Jack.