Today - (07.05.13) - Adobe killed the creative industry in total. Worldwide

[jennywren]

We all run different business models, and while I enjoy using a newer version of software, I do find it VERY difficult to financially justify the upgrade cost, so while they still work, I will mostly use old versions of PS that I know inside out, instead of having a zillion new features that I don't know how to control.....
If you offer a high end design service, you can justify the outlay, if you mostly crop & resize, adjust levels, bit of clone/brush up, clean up backgrounds or make transparent, you can use any PS from the last 10+ years and they run like stink on new computers.
Never been convinced in having the latest software, - more of a hardware man me!

You've said me the time in writing in what I would have said, also I a old dog and its not easy for me to get use to changes. I think a lot of software will go this way to save on copying.

[phoenixalpha]

The people who pirate software, by that I mean the actual people who crack these programs and distribute it, wont look on the Adobe model as a deterrent, it will be more of a challenge. They crack games every day of the week that connections to servers, and I don't see this being much different. It will happen.

[ASLCreative]

I think the move over to monthly subscriptions is more to do with cash flow and building a sustainable business model rather than reducing piracy.


This way Adobe know in advance how much income they will be getting each month.

Plus they can automatically gather data about how the software is being used; which functions are being used, how long it is used for on a daily basis and lots more. This will then help them decide what products to develop further.


Microsoft make a fortune on licensing - that is why the government are trying to push to using open source software.


This will become more common place for software over the next 5 years.

Businesses will have to factor in monthly payments for software. A small company with 2 or 3 users could easily end up paying £2-3k per year for the software they use (Anti virus, word processing, email, graphics, accounting software etc.).


In response to this, I think we will see more open source software being used and companies using these products will not mind funding the development of it by making donations.

[viccar]

We all run different business models, and while I enjoy using a newer version of software, I do find it VERY difficult to financially justify the upgrade cost, so while they still work, I will mostly use old versions of PS that I know inside out, instead of having a zillion new features that I don't know how to control.....
If you offer a high end design service, you can justify the outlay, if you mostly crop & resize, adjust levels, bit of clone/brush up, clean up backgrounds or make transparent, you can use any PS from the last 10+ years and they run like stink on new computers.
Never been convinced in having the latest software, - more of a hardware man me!

Ill agree with this as well, I only use elements so i wont be paying $50 a month, if this one i have stops working then i will use other programs that are available. I think they will shoot themselves in the foot with this move.

[mgibbs]

Internet based (the rebel in me hates the term "ClouD") software is fine while you have a fast and working internet connection but are a royal pain otherwise.

A customer of mine in the Occupational Health sector lost access to their patient records and appointment diary for 3 days recently while their ISP tried to fix a line fault because their system is a hosted one.

For my graphics work I'll stick with Corel

Mark

[pisquee]

I think there is some confusion caused by the use of the term "cloud" - the software itself is not cloud based - the cloud part comes in, as you have to download the software from Adobe rather than being able to buy a physically CD/DVD in a box from a shop. And there are cloud features - like collaborative forums and picture sharing that are online. The software runs fine/as normal without an internet connection.

[phoenixalpha]

The software runs fine/as normal without an internet connection.

It doesn't though does it. If you don't pay your money to Adobe it gets switched off until you do. It needs a net connection to authorise that it is a valid copy alongside a valid payment. It's not standalone by any means.

[Fidget242]

It doesn't though does it. If you don't pay your money to Adobe it gets switched off until you do. It needs a net connection to authorise that it is a valid copy alongside a valid payment. It's not standalone by any means.

Yes but this connection only happens once a month. It doesn't need to connect every time you open the software...it can remain unconnected for the rest of the month once the check has been done.

[phoenixalpha]

But if you don't have an internet connection, or if your internet happens to go down when the renewal time is up... it stops working.

Maybe I'm just a bit paranoid but I'd rather not run the risk of my business being crippled if I cant get access to the internet on the mac or pc I happen to have Creative Suite on.

[Fidget242]

But if you don't have an internet connection, or if your internet happens to go down when the renewal time is up... it stops working.

Maybe I'm just a bit paranoid but I'd rather not run the risk of my business being crippled if I cant get access to the internet on the mac or pc I happen to have Creative Suite on.

Not instantly crippled - if it can't connect at renewal time it gives you a 7 day grace period. Also if you're on the annual agreement you get 180 days grace period at renewal time. There was also a discussion on the adobe boards about the possibility of integrating a 'renew by phone' option in emergency situations.

I am aware the internet dependency thing can put people off but personally - I like this internet based direction. What with dropbox, office 365, helpscout and now adobe joining in... result!