Black looks faded and streaky help plz

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Re: Black looks faded and streaky help plz

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Hi there I have just started to use my mug press and using the setting of 180oc and 3 mins but the black ink seems to be left more on the paper than the mug and is faded and got lines though it.

What pressure should i set it to and any help would be great

Thanks

Doug
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Mug press should be tight so the mug can't move, temp around 180 -190 degrees for 3-3.5 minutes. Can you post back what mug press,paper, inks and which mugs you're using and also a pic would help.
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As Martin says, knowing what ink, mugs and press you have would help. For a start I would saying putting your temp up to 195-200 would help. If when you say it is "streaky" I am assuming these are lines going down the mug. This is often when not enough heat is getting through. All presses need to be tweaked on trial and error to find what works best for you. Sounds like insufficient heat and possibly pressure if lots of ink left on the paper and streaks. More info will give a better indication though.
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The mug press was from ebay It only has number wl-13d on it the inks are from Pro Print, Mugs from love cut they are 10oz whats the best size image for a full wrap around please. The paper is from a company called [url="http://www.funkyleopard.co.uk]www.funkyleopard.co.uk[/url] hope all this info helps. Turn the temp up to 200oc see what happens any help is great thanks guy and gels
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The ink you have looks to be for large format printers and formulated for textile printing. Whilst it will print onto hard substrates it might not be ideal. Don't know anything about that company or ink they have. If you have a desktop printer then using these inks is actually illegal as Sawgrass hold the patent/monopoly. With using Sawgrass you do get the back-up of correct software for print management. Unfortunately, often buying cheap and off ebay can lead to problems. Sublimation done correctly can be quite complex and requires the correct printer/inks/software/presses/paper/ coated items plus relevant knowledge.

I am sure you'll get help to get you on the correct track here so feel free to ask away. A full list of brand names and items such as printer being used will help to see if there are any key issues.

Good luck
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I am using a Epson P50 printer and never new about the ink just bought it.
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Do the line go all the way round the mug in vertical stripes, or is it only near the handle?

To sizes, you can print up to 230mm but it is very difficult to go past 190 with a budget mug press and to be honest to go past that is easier to us a cactus wrap in an oven and you can get up to 220 even 230 on a good day, but you need good mugs, don't always believe suppliers claims about quality, there are many on here who can point you in the right direction on suppliers.
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No worries. I know nothing about the P50 and sublimation but perhaps Martin at BMS will be able to fill in the gaps there. When starting out in sublimation you are always going to need support to get upand running correctly. Forums like this are great but using a tried and tested supplier for all of your information is key. Further down the line you can try out your options but getting a key supplier who will make sure you have the right items and then more importantly give you the back-up support is key. There are only a few I would reccomend but none more than Martin at BMS and you will find many on here who will say the same.

Back to your mug..... have you tried a higher temp? When you shut the press you should be able to do it with one finger but the mug should be gripped securely which then exerts even and sufficient pressure.
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The P50 is a standard desktop photo printer, as far as I know not supported for sublimation. Looked at the pro priint website and can't see that they sell sublimation ink either.
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The P50 isn't a supported printer and an ICC colour correction profile isn't available for this model. From the sounds of it the problem could be any factor, but assuming some ink is getting onto the mug then it could be a problem with either the paper releasing the ink (temp/time increase may help) or the mugs (would need to see a pic of the mug to help further here as it would be useful to see what the lines are and where they are). Is the paper also creased or is there a crease in the mug blanket?

Perhaps someone can help re uploading pics here - how is this done? I see there is an Img link but what do you put in this to get a pic up on the forum? Can someone post an example?
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