refillable inks

[flatcap]

hi can anyone tell me how to refill refillable ink cartridges for epson s21 i know it's not sub but its the printer i use for invoices etc hope someone can help

[mrs maggot]

have you refilled them before ? the S21 does not come up on the site i get my ink refils from http://www.continuous-ink-systems.co.uk do you normally use a syringe ?

[Justin]

Have you actually got the carts yet?

I saw these on eBay....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Set-Refillable-Compatible-Ink-Cartridges-Epson-S21-S-21_W0QQitemZ370301059071QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CamerasPhoto_Printing_PrinterInkCatridges_JN?hash=item5637a9bfff

Are yours similar?

[flatcap]

hi Laura no iv' never used them before and they arrived with one rubber bung missing no syringes as advertised and no instructions
also each cartridge has a layer of pinkish liquid in and i don't know if i have to empty them before putting ink in mind you I don't even know which hole i have to put the ink in
hi jn yes i have the carts the same as the one in your link but not from ebay
so if you guys know how to fill the ones in the link i may just get my snotty letter to 3mobile printed and posted

[mrs maggot]

you can try here if there is anything that might help http://www.continuous-ink-systems.co.uk/installation_new/instruction-AB-cartridge.pdf

[John G]

Hi, If its just for printing invoices you'll save a lot of time and money buying a cheap laser printer

[JSR]

Hi, If its just for printing invoices you'll save a lot of time and money buying a cheap laser printer

Yes, but not too cheap! Check out the toner costs for some cheap laser printers and they're no cheaper to run than an inkjet - particularly when you consider that laser printers have hidden costs such as drums, transfer belts, waste bottles, etc etc.

[Paul]

If this is only for invoices why not buy cheap Epson Stylus S21 and third party inks to keep the cost down?

[John G]

Yes I agree that the toner is much more expensive but you do get a huge page count. The original minoltas that I buy are 4500 pages for between £60 - £80 and you need 4 of them. I have 3 minolta 2300, 2 bought brand new and one second hand off an ebay listing - had these for about 6 years and in that time i've only replaced the OPC Drum Unit on 2 of these printers - around £100.

The benefits are fast, just about instant, prints which are dry, much sharper than inkjet and look more professional. If your only printing invoices you could go down the road of using compatable toners and get the full set for about £80 on ebay.

As JSR said - Always check the consumables when buying a laser printer.

[JSR]

Yes I agree that the toner is much more expensive but you do get a huge page count. The original minoltas that I buy are 4500 pages for between £60 - £80 and you need 4 of them. I have 3 minolta 2300, 2 bought brand new and one second hand off an ebay listing - had these for about 6 years and in that time i've only replaced the OPC Drum Unit on 2 of these printers - around £100.

The benefits are fast, just about instant, prints which are dry, much sharper than inkjet and look more professional. If your only printing invoices you could go down the road of using compatable toners and get the full set for about £80 on ebay.

As JSR said - Always check the consumables when buying a laser printer.

Older printers tend to be cheaper to run because the printer itself cost more. My first laser printer had a black toner that lasted for some 10,000 pages and cost about £80.

However, many manufacturers are using what they've learned with inkjets when selling budget laser printers. It's not uncommon to see a cheap laser printer only to find out that the toners are £30-£40 for just 1K or 2K pages. Given that some inkjets can do 500 pages on an ink cartridge of about £10, and there are no other costs (such as drum, belt, waste collector, etc), then suddenly budget lasers are not so budget after all.

We have an HP Officejet printer here which uses £18 black cartridges which give you 2,350 pages (compare that to your minolta costing £60-£80 for just 4,500 pages). We use it rather than our lasers (we have two) because the HP inkjet is *cheaper* to run!

And as for fast. On draft mode (which is perfectly legible on this HP Officejet), it outpaces my colour lasers. I just wish they still sold that inkjet because I'd get another one. I've been an Epson customer all my life, but that HP really made me sit up and take notice.

The only point I'm intending to make here is that it's not like the old days in which "laser is always cheaper to run than inkjet". You need to check the product and not just assume it's the case.