Ready to throw my B40W out the window..grrr help please..

[debbie]

One problem solved.yeh!.paper feed working a treat now....problem was.."THE PAPER". WOW how something so simple can make a big difference..still have fine lines on print out..nozzle fine, head alignment makes ink light and needs chip re set....set to highest quality is worse...

[gstk]

I know its a bone of contention but I still say for me its a no brainer. We switched to a Ricoh about 18 months ago and NOTHING would make me change back to a ciss system. It prints, it runs out of ink you replace the cartridge no mess no fuss. We havent had to do any nozzle cleans. We went on holiday for a fortnight and came back and it printed first go. Infact down tiem and stress from it ZERO (Now I've said it)

[JSR]

Infact down tiem and stress from it ZERO (Now I've said it)

That's all we want from our printers, isn't it? :biggrin: There are more important things to spend time on than slaving over an objectionable printer for three days just because it picks today to have a day off.

[ASO Embroidery]

Hi
have to agree with gstk we bought a epson d120 about 18 months ago along with a mug press the printer never ever worked from day 1 so much so i was so fed up with it the whole thing went in the bin we now have the Ricoh gx7000 and its never let us down since we got it i know others on the forum say the print quality may not be just as good as some of the epsons but when you have nothing to compare it against i think it is a superb printer although i do agree it is definately not the cheapest but from a reliability point of view you cannot beat it
my tuppence worth..
Sammy

[JSR]

have to agree with gstk we bought a epson d120 about 18 months ago along with a mug press the printer never ever worked from day 1 so much so i was so fed up with it the whole thing went in the bin we now have the Ricoh gx7000 and its never let us down since we got it

Am I correct in remembering that the D120 cost £50, and the GX7000 cost £500+? At ten times the price, I'd not only expect the Ricoh to be superior to the Epson, but I'd want it to go out and make the tea for me as well..! :biggrin:

[John G]

There's flaws in your maths JSR - the D120 is an A4 printer while the GX7000 is A3, but I do agree that they are much more expensive than an epson

[ASO Embroidery]

Yup your absolutely correct not sure about the exact price but your not far off i cannot argue with you regards the price it is I think way over the top but from a personnel point of view if it means i do not have to have the problems associated with the ciss system then its money well spent

Regards
Sammy

[JSR]

There's flaws in your maths JSR - the D120 is an A4 printer while the GX7000 is A3, but I do agree that they are much more expensive than an epson

Well there are £500+ Epson printers that do A3+, and that's what should be compared to a £500+ Ricoh, not a £50 budget entry.

I have an R1800 that, while I don't use it for dye-sub, has a significantly better build quality than my £100 B40W. That £100 B40W is better quality than the old £40 Epson I had years ago (which would have been a forerunner to the D120 used here by ASO for comparison). My R1800 wasn't a £500 printer, but I know the next model up (which was) was built to even higher standards. It's all about comparing apples with apples, not apples with mangos...:biggrin:

In short, if you buy cheap you have to plan for potential problems. If you buy expensive you expect gold-plated fittings and exemplary service/support. That's only natural.

[JSR]

Yup your absolutely correct not sure about the exact price but your not far off i cannot argue with you regards the price it is I think way over the top but from a personnel point of view if it means i do not have to have the problems associated with the ciss system then its money well spent

Regards
Sammy

I agree with you. First and foremost the important thing is to have a setup that works. People find different setups that work for them, and no one can argue with that.

If you're in the business for the long haul, then a few extra hundred quid for the printer is a tiny investment if that works the best for you. Some people may find that what works best for them is to buy several £100 printers instead of a single £500 printer. That's not wrong either.

If the Ricoh had been available when I started out years ago, then I suspect that no one would be using Epson these days (except us rebels!).

[gstk]

Am I correct in remembering that the D120 cost £50, and the GX7000 cost £500+? At ten times the price, I'd not only expect the Ricoh to be superior to the Epson, but I'd want it to go out and make the tea for me as well..! :biggrin:

Price comparison still flawed. D120 with ciis and ink was a lot more than fifty quid. Add the countless mousemat prints that stopped two thirds from finished. Add the hours Of priming and swearing and then binning it the mess and I bought the A4 one. No brainer