Counterfeit Goods

[accdave]

I 've had a batch of hoodies from a local boys club in this week for putting numbers on. These hoodies have been badged up with the clubs badge by somebody else, as you might expect Nike hoodies becuase it's a football club.

I got to the 5th one and noticed a lump inside the hoodie, turned out to be loads of backing from when the embroidery had been done, for the NIKE tick !!! I hadn't checked the labels up to then, assumed they were Nike, turns out to be a SG hoodies.

Before a certain customer gets asked certain questions when he turns up for them, am I right in assuming all NIKE clothing would have a NIKE label, and they wouldn't licence out their trademark ?

Dave

[Lee]

I know where you're coming from and a dont have much experience in counterfeit, but wouldnt this jepodise your order perhaps, for something that you don't have to be concerned about? Or I am wrong?

[John G]

I wouldn't worry about it - if the end customer supplied the goods he knows what they are - your just supplying an overprinting or personalising service. On the invoice just state - customer supplied garments with nike emblem already on.

Cheers John

[busybusybee]

I agree with John, yes morally they are wrong but legally there nothing to do with you, your providing the personalisation service, i would just get the customer to sign to say they supplied the goods

[pitkin2020]

a moral dilemma.

Well morally by working on the counterfeit goods your no better than the person that added the fake Nike logo. Its a bit like putting a copied dvd into a sleeve to sell and saying because you didn't copy it then its ok!!

Being moral though doesn't always put food on the table!!

Catch 22 i'm afraid as you will damned if you do damned if you don't.

[John G]

Well morally by working on the counterfeit goods your no better than the person that added the fake Nike logo

I disagree with that statement - and there's no moral dilemma at all, he's not selling the garments, he's providing a service on supplied garments.

[pitkin2020]

I disagree with that statement - and there's no moral dilemma at all, he's not selling the garments, he's providing a service on supplied garments.

so what you saying is then my mate Dave can supply me with counterfeit DVD's i can then add the title on with a sharpie and thats morally acceptable?? I haven't copied the film I have just worked on a supplied DVD!!

[Renniwano]

Personally I would be adding that the customer supplied their own goods.. and leave it at that.. for all you know they may believe them to be the real deal =)

[John G]

my mate Dave can supply me with counterfeit DVD's i can then add the title on with a sharpie

Completely different scenario - In your case you're aiding and abetting if you intend to sell the end product - he's not making or selling the tops - he has been asked to put numbers on the back of supplied garments for a boys club - he's providing a service.

I've had jobs were a customer has supplied tops for a hen night - its not my job to check and make sure the tops actually came from George at Asda.

[Paul]

I am with John on this one. Lets look at this this way... DVD's scenario. you mate asked you to print "for sale" stickers for his dvd's. you find out they may be doggy copys. but you not selling them. only providing your service. so will you print those "for sale" stickers or not??
I would