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Thank you Paul for adding to this post - it's always nice to communicate with suppliers :-)
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paulhirst;29980 wrote:Hi JSR.....

>And what's all that about a "support jig" and "cooling jig"

Erh ? You need an engineered jig to support the plastic to stop it crushing under the pressure from the heat press, the jig has to be engineered with a couple of thou tolerance to accommodate the shrinking of the plastic so that it fits the iPhone after its imaged and doesn't fall off

>That's £100 you're out before you even buy any cases.

Yup thats right £100.00 so that you can enter a market and sell covers to the 20+ million people that have iPhones at about £15.00 - £17.00 each giving you a profit of about £10.00 per case

>Only a fool would invest so much money in these cases with the iPhone 5 due out soon

There must be a lot of fools then as we have taken pre booked orders for 1000's of them and 2 of the UK's largest retailers are launching the product. Most people that are in business will not see a few hundred pounds as a barrier to entry, and yes as soon as the iPhone 5 is out people will have to spend another couple of hundred pounds to get some more jigs and then they will be able to sell lots more decorated cases at great margins without investing about 30 grand for a 3D system

>No wonder the prices are so high - so they can rake in money from the early investors, knowing that they'll have to pay all over again for iPhone 5 cases.

First off you have to pay for a special tool making for the injection molding Cost about £15k you then have to get the parts shipped to the UK and coated twice once for sublimation and then the edges painted You have several lots of shipping, you have waste, you have tooling costs to recover, you have packaging, you have to use a special blend of plastic (expensive) to take the heat.

Seriously though JSR I do find your logic here quite bizarre, you think a few 100 pounds investment to be able to produce top quality products that can be sold to 1000's of different markets is an issue ? maybe you are underselling yourself and the benefits of short run digital imaging .....
hI paul good pitch for a minute i thought i was watching an episode of dragons den !!
personally i think JSR had some very good points i struggle to sell neoprene phone socks at £5.00 let alone £15-£17 i have also not long returned from a trip to California where in the malls there, there are barrowboys selling iphone cases plastic very similar to the ones in question they are stunning and they are around $5.00 each i know i bought the daughter one.
Agreed you need to spend a lot on the machineary to produce the jigs etc but then you could apply the same logic that you want JSR to apply

quote "First off you have to pay for a special tool making for the injection molding Cost about £15k you then have to get the parts shipped to the UK and coated twice once for sublimation and then the edges painted You have several lots of shipping, you have waste, you have tooling costs to recover, you have packaging, you have to use a special blend of plastic (expensive) to take the heat."

its a bit rich to pull JSR for complaining about the price to manfature and then do the same yourself!
I think Paul what you need to remember is the vast majority of members of this forum are very much small time and are not able to churn out items by the thousand in the hope of turning £1000,s in profit.
personally i know my market place and i know that at £17.00 per phone case i'm highly unlikly to sell many if any at all believe me id be the first with £500 in my grubby mits if i thought it were possible i may be totally wrong JSR may be totally wrong we all may be totally wrong but to come on and shout down JSR for what is your potential customers opinion will only serve to to alienate any potential customers you may gain from this forum .
Again this is solely my opinion i wish you well but in the words of mr Banertine
"i think its ridiculas and im out "
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purpledragon;29984 wrote:Again this is solely my opinion i wish you well but in the words of mr Banertine
"i think its ridiculas and im out "
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made me chuckle Brett :-)
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AdamB;29986 wrote:made me chuckle Brett :-)
well u gotta laff innit
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Ang on a mo i just realised i joined this forum nov 2009 and adam you joined may 2010 how comes you're a senior member and im just a member !!!!! i feel a complaining letter commin on lol
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paulhirst;29976 wrote:Hi....

Take at look at www.getuncommon.com or www.casemate.com these people are selling 10s of thousands of cases per month at around $30.00 each decorated (this is just iPhones)
I can see the price but cant see the proff that they sell 10s of thousands of cases per month tho :confused:
you can be in business to produce STUNNING and I mean STUNNING high quality cases that sell at £15.00 to £20.00 RRP printed ...
:cool::rolleyes:
I think people in us are more reach then people in Uk. I looked arround but cant find any one who is selling iphone cases for this price with succes...
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purpledragon;29988 wrote:Ang on a mo i just realised i joined this forum nov 2009 and adam you joined may 2010 how comes you're a senior member and im just a member !!!!! i feel a complaining letter commin on lol
Not sure - Paul messaged me and said for all the good work and posts I have made he was making me a senior member to stand up amongst junior and standard members such as yourself .................................... only kidding mate, I think it goes on post counts?
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AdamB;29990 wrote:Not sure - Paul messaged me and said for all the good work and posts I have made he was making me a senior member to stand up amongst junior and standard members such as yourself .................................... only kidding mate, I think it goes on post counts?
But obviously not on the quality of posts ............................ lol
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purpledragon;29991 wrote:But obviously not on the quality of posts ............................ lol
ouch - pity it's not done on 'complaining' then Brett - you could be a 'Super Senior Member' ! (lol)
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Paul;29989 wrote:I can see the price but cant see the proff that they sell 10s of thousands of cases per month tho :confused:


:cool::rolleyes:
I think people in us are more reach then people in Uk. I looked arround but cant find any one who is selling iphone cases for this price with succes...
These people are likly to be either resellers or have the equiptment and the financial backing to be able to produce these and all the marketing that goes with it, lets face it if you chuck thousands of pounds at marketing you will see a return the trick is to have the thousands of pounds in the first place. My gripe was that the post seemed a little aggressive towards JSR's comments though in fairness JSR wasnt pulling any punches either but no matter how he put those points they were still valid.you're right paul they obviously sell them but how many do they sell we cant tell that Paul hirst must have access to that info so we can only take his word for it.As a guide ive just had someone in my shop buying one of my neoprene phone socks so i put it to them that i could supply hard cased stunning looking phone cases for £17.00 common decency prevents me from repeating their answer but the jist was
Oh dear thats rather expensive i think i shall not buy one on this occasion
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