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[Paul]

purpledragon. You missunderstand my intention mate. Iam not saing that people cant mmmake their own mind. I said bot in this case as tony already made his mind and chose inkjet. So instad of try to help him with his problem people recomend to chuck his dear printer in the bin and buy a more expensive one. What kind of help is that?!

[Paul]

not to come to Pauls defence, on this issue, but in general, but i think sometimes his Polish comes out in his written English, and comes across slightly abrupt which I'm sure its not meant to be. Its taken me a while to reaslise this when i read some of his replies.

;o sorry. I did not mean to upset no one. also i did not know my posts are ofensive as well. I am not argumentive person and i was wondering couple of times why people getting so touchy after i post some posts. Sorry guys. This is just the way i post ;(

[John G]

Your English is much better than my Polish

[gstk]

I must admit I do feel a bit like I am being attacked for giving an opinion. But I am old enough, wise enough and big enough to not let that bother me. I want to clarify my opinion on this matter.

1. I have owned 2 x D88's and 1x D120 Sub printer. I also own a Ricoh 3300n currently. I have been doing this for four years with good results and high customer satisfaction. Since I have owned both types of printers I feel I am justified in giving MY OPINION on what I consider to be the best ALL ROUND printer FOR ME
2. TonyM is trying to get started. He is neither producing anything or has a serviceable printer and is not earning anything for his outlay. technically he has purchased something not fit for the job he bought it for. Under the consumer rights someone has to act.
I offered an OPTION to him. I didnt tell him to throw it away (Although I did with mine) I told him to get what he could for it. Or perhaps he should get either the supplier or manufacturer to sort him out. Of course a third option, if he can afford it is to get a Ricoh and start work and earning and then when the D120 is resolved he has the option for both.

3. The D120 is a notoriously poor machine. I can say this because I had one and threw it away in frustration. Not from hearsay or rumour. It did everything everyone else has said.

4. The comment that I or others could not understand the dyesub system after having used a D88 for two years is somewhat unwarranted. I am in business to make money and keep customers happy, at the most cost effective way I can. If I have a machine that breaks down constantly it means I am not as productive. TIME = MONEY! I bought the Ricoh hoping to elimenate the time wasted. I evaluated the print quality and in my view it is very saleable. After all if the picture provided is crap so the result will be crap.

5. If I was doing high value prints for say canvas frames on a huge scale, I would probably go for a dye sub setup, but it wouldnt now be a half arsed office printer converted. I'd pay for a proper Dyesub plotter / Industrial machine. Truth is mostly we are all chasing a print cost as cheap as possible on blanks rarely costing more than a couple of quid each.

6. Accused of "Favourising" the Ricoh. This is a forum and the guy asked for help and an opinion. I have had both types and in my opinion its the better. My view was offered from my experience. Everyone has an opinion and is entitled to say it. If you dont agree I have no problem with it. Let the reader evaluate

[TonyM]

Hi did you give a thought as to whether you want to sell your Ricoh?
I have decided I must bite the bullet and cant keep messing around.
What would the cost comparison be using a CISS system over cartridges be?
I guess it is quite a lot more?
Have done all I can ib black and white now and need some colour.
I have just ran 3 cleans and printed off a page of Yellow and Red shapes.
I have 20 totally blank pages.
Anyone got a Ricoh with the Cartridges for sale on here?
Or point me in the right direction of a reasonably priced kit?

Thanks
Tony

[TonyM]

Is this a sublimation printer?
It seems too cheap.
Ricoh GX e3350n A4 Colour Gel Printer
£125+Vat and it icludes 4 Gel Cartridges and free P&P
That is new from an online shop.
There is even £20 cashback!
To good to be true?
http://www.printerland.co.uk/Ricoh-GX-e ... Time966332
Please advise as I must get one in the next few days and get set up for the weekend as I have just heard that I will be losing my job in the next few weeks.

Best Regards

Tony

[Justin]

That price sounds about right, you need to factor in the cost of sublimation inks there as well. Personally I would buy the complete set-up from one of the suppliers on our current list rather than get the printer from one company and inks from another.

[John G]

it is a sub printer - just not supplied with the sub inks.

[bms]

Ours are £249 +vat and come with a full set of SubliJetR inks. If you do buy the printer elsewhere NEVER insert the genuine carts. Ricohs tend to work out about 20% more expensive per page compared to Epsons on bulk feed systems.

[JSR]

The choice of printer is an emotive subject, and it's no wonder really.

In an ideal world, the ideal printer for a type of ink is a printer made by the company that made the ink. That way, if you have any problems, the manufacturer is likely to help.

In the real world, we're left with having to put a third party ink into a printer that it wasn't designed for. It doesn't matter if that's an Epson or a Ricoh printer because it just wasn't designed for it. And why should it be? Neither Epson nor Ricoh profit by the sale of dye-sublimation ink, so why should they give a monkeys if it causes problems?

Different printers work better for different people. Some people have success with Epson printers, others have blocking issues; other people have success with Ricoh printers, others have mainboard failures. In either case, the use of third-party inks in them has the manufacturer running a mile.

There is no easy and quick answer to "which printer should I buy?" because there is no printer designed for "dye-sublimation ink" - it's forever going to be a case of "square peg in round hole". Everyone has their own opinion on what works best for them, and what works best for them may not work for you at all.