Times for Sublimation.

[bikertec]

It might be good to have a list of times and temps for average sublimations. Maybe we could add our times and temp then Justin or someone could add them all together and make it into a sticky post. Im sure this would help a lot of newbies instead of trawling the web.

Heres my list using Lyson ink.

Mugs 180 deg and 160 sec
T Shirts 180 deg and 25 sec

Well thats my list because thats all I have done.

Unless you count burnt leather faded cotton canvas etc

[Kaz]

Mugs 180 for 180
Tshirts 180 for 60

Can't think of anything else right now, I blame the wine, lol

[Ian M]

I blame the wine, lol

Good excuse there Kaz I'll go get a couple of bottles.........lol

Ian :biggrin:

[AdamB]

It's a great idea but I think the information would only be good as a guide and not a rule as there are many different factors that affect individuals times - ink, type of press, brand of garment, type of mug, type of vinyl/flex/flock (covers everything there Martin) etc.

As an example, bikertec - you say that you do t-shirts at 180 deg for 25 secs and Kaz says 180 deg for 60 seconds ................. that's a bit of a difference in itself and it wasn't even mentioned if the t-shirts were being pressed with subliminal images, chromablast, transfer of flex images?

I have a book that I have written the temps, times and pressure required when doing certain items - I know it works for me so it's my subli bible really.

At the start, I turned to the BMS website for a guide as all items have approx pressing times with them.

[DREAMGLASS]

I have to agree with AdamB that there are just too many variables with the type of press being used, the manufacturers of the blanks and even variance with the types of ink being used. You also have the differences in the way that folks work. For example I put a thin piece of card on the subli paper to protect my platen and put a teflon sheet over the garment to protect the garment from the platen. That obviously have impact on times as both the teflon sheet and the card need to absorb heat.

The problem is that if folks follow a heating schedule and their blank gets ruined, who did you think they are likely to blame on a publicly viewable forum?

[AdamB]

I have to agree with AdamB that there ..............

I'm going to have to check my lottery numbers now mate, there's a first time for everything!

[DREAMGLASS]

there's a first time for everything!

Diversity and differences of opinion add interest to the forum....... lol

[Dick]

I use a Ricoh printer and a couple of BMS Presses, I have to press at least 10degC below recommended on both presses, this gives superb results, press at recommended temps and blacks come out brown. Don't know if it the inks or the presses. I find temp critical and time less so. So recomendations are simply that!

[John G]

I'm also using Ricoh printer and print my mugs @ 160/160. BMS B grade mugs i've upt the times to 170/170. I can use 180/180 but was seeing what times I could get away with for long runs and 160/160 seemed ideal for the mugs.

[JSR]

I agree entirely with AdamB and Dreamglass on this. The times/temps that I use bear almost no relation to the time/temps used by others.

The example I use is to compare my flatbed with my plate press. If I press a coaster at the same time in both presses, the plate press can take up to 5-10 times as long to produce the same result. It's the same coaster, the same ink, the same paper, the same way of pressing, but a huge chasm of difference in how long it takes because the press is different.

The only way to get an understanding of the times/temps that work for you is trial and error. Keep notes so that you know what you've tried before, and you minimise your wasteage. The more you press, the better you'll get.