Conflicting times for mugs.

Specifically for mug presses & ovens
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I do Mugs at 180 degrees for 180 seconds, never had a problem yet (touch wood) in 3 years!
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180 for 180 here aswell.

Smitch, I think maybe the tape is burning becuase you have it in for 5 minutes instead of 3, have you tried reducing the time?
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I have only ever done mugs at 180 degrees for 180 seconds and things go well. Anything over or higher than that tends to scorch the paper, marking the mug and the blanket.
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The love cut mugs I was doing at 160 degrees and 160 seconds, brought the time/temp down and this had little/no effect on the finished mug. The BMS/Xpres mugs I think I'll have to increase back to 180/180 as the print was a little on the light side - still looks good though!
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After using many suppliers in my early days of sub work, I settled for only using mugs from BMS as they were the only people who could supply quality mugs cost-effectively and on time. I've been using BMS now for nearly three years and it would take a lot to convince me to buy mugs from anyone else.
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I'm impressed with the BMS one too! had the standard and b grade and like them both.
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John G;16087 wrote:The love cut mugs I was doing at 160 degrees and 160 seconds, brought the time/temp down and this had little/no effect on the finished mug. The BMS/Xpres mugs I think I'll have to increase back to 180/180 as the print was a little on the light side - still looks good though!

This may have to do with the coating. I find I have to bring the temperature right down for colour change mugs, otherwise the coating turns yellow where it reacts with the paper. RN and Orca coatings seem to tolerate much higher temperatures (and so probably don't like the lower temperatures).
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180c for 5mins! isn't that over the time cooking?
isn't 180c time @ 180 sec but depending on how much colour you have very important here if your template is an full wrap of colors then temp 180c time @ over the 180 sec is needed has anyone here been do full colour wraps around the mug Please give the setting they use thanks
bms;15536 wrote:Different mug presses operate in different ways hence the different information.

The basic models heat to 180 degrees and have a 'safety' mug in place whilst heating. You put your mug in at 180 and cook for 3-4 minutes.
Other models heat to a lower temp and then you put your mug in. When mug goes in the press starts to heat to 180 and the time starts from when the heat reaches 180. In which case it may only need cooking for 2 - 2 1/2 minutes. You'll need to speak to your supplier for the correct operation of your mug press.
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im going to say this this but isn't there to many variables with mug press stating that press at 180c for least 180 sec! does that imply to an full wrap colour template round the mug?
suppose a customer comes to me with an design measured at 22cm by 9cm an full wrap and its an full blown colour design. does everyone here believe that putting into an mug press going for 180c temp and time 180 sec is going to do it? anyone care to comment on this here Please give your Experience to share
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22 x 9 is on the very limit for the best presses out there and will probably take longer in my experience. It takes longer to get enough heat to the print either side of the handle. Also I always personally never print at as low a temp as 180. 195 for 170 is a starting point that I use and this is accross a few different brands of press.
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