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Since i plan to buy a new printer in A3+ format i have to look for a different sublimation paper brand. My S-Race paper is not available in germany in size A3+, its availabe in the UK but the shipping costs are way to high to make sense. Now i can can get a paper from i guess a chinese Company "A-Sub a3+" or TexPrint XP-HR. I would love to stick with S-Race but its not possible. Which of those papers is the best for hard substrates or are there any differences at all because i constantly hear people who claim that they use normal copy paper for sublimation and it would be fine, i have my doubts about that because the ink needs to be kept on the surface for a high release etc.. I doubt normal papers will do that.
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Can you get Coldenhove Jetcol papers??
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pisquee;143946 wrote:Can you get Coldenhove Jetcol papers??
Never heard of that brand, seems like a very popular brand in the sublimation industry. The Jetcol DHS would be the right paper for me i guess but i can not find any online shops here in germany. I only found some large rolls with that paper.

Its hard to find A3+ sublimation paper in online shops. Amazon sells A-Sub and on ebay you can get TruePix. Not sure whats better between the two. I am using S-race and i like it but i tested only one other paper before and i didnt liked it because of less ink release compared to the S-Race.
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We used to use JetCol High Speed by the roll, and found it to be the best paper we've ever used - still keep some as a back up, but generally use InkTec's paper now as we get it so much cheaper - it isn't as good as Jetcol, but for the cost difference, it's worth the less quality.
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Texprint R is ok, but i prefer s race. Paper cost isn't really a concern to me. I just make sure i focus on improving my productivity, as this has produce much higher profit margins than any saving on paper. The material costs are rarely huge profit savers. The real saving is productivity. If you can double your print rate per hour, you can buy any paper in my opinion.
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Texprint XP HR is very good paper ( ironically we can't get it in A3+ here, which is why I started using Srace). I prefer the Srace because the blacks are slightly better, and the application time is slightly shorter.

S-Race is made in Germany. Can't you contact the manufacturer?
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billy8581;143951 wrote:Paper cost isn't really a concern to me. I just make sure i focus on improving my productivity, as this has produce much higher profit margins than any saving on paper. The material costs are rarely huge profit savers. The real saving is productivity. If you can double your print rate per hour, you can buy any paper in my opinion.
We get 100 metre rolls of 44 inch wide paper - when you're regularly buying paper in these quantities there can be a significant differences in what the cost is between brands, and what rates you can negotiate with suppliers. Yes, the cost per metre of printed fabric works out fairly cheap on a per unit basis, but there is a much bigger cashflow hit compared to buying 100 sheets of A4/A3 paper
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The manufacturer only offers rolls, i guess they sell it in sheets for other online shops. I can only get the S-race in A3, not A3+. I asked the amazon seller and he said that they had internally discussed it but not finally decided in selling A3+ as well. JetCol isnt availabe in A3+ sheets as well here. The only papers i can get are of course the one from ink experts and the chinese A-Sub and TexPrint XP HR. The Texprint is offered pretty cheap on ebay but the seller constantly send me mails in broken german that his TexPrint paper is the best and i should order it etc.. I think its probably fake, the seller sounds strange to me. Another thing is that the TexPrint paper is only 105g and somebody here wrote that it spread ink in his ET-14000 printer.

So i am left with the chinese made A-Sub on amazon and the ink tech papers. I have the ink tech Versa in A4 and i prefer the S-race A4 because it releases much more ink. So i really dont know what i should buy, maybe i order the A-Sub for A3+ prints and the S-race in normal A3. The downside is i need two custom ICC's then. I am not sure about the A-Sub as well because they can not even write the word Epson on the package of their A-Sub papers, it says for "Espon printers".
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https://products.felix-schoeller.com/de ... nting.html

Here is the website for the manufacturer. Phone them and explain the irony that you can't buy their paper in Germany.
Tell 'em the guys from the Dye Sub Forum sent ya!:wink:
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pw66;143977 wrote:https://products.felix-schoeller.com/de ... nting.html

Here is the website for the manufacturer. Phone them and explain the irony that you can't buy their paper in Germany.
Tell 'em the guys from the Dye Sub Forum sent ya!:wink:
The support gave me a place where i can get the paper in A3+ but unfortunately they are a wholeseller and dont sell to private people i guess. The 2nd shop i found only offer it as a roll. Seems like i have to get it from the UK which would be Dye sublimation supplies because they also send to germany.

The Texprint seller on ebay wrote me again and again, offered me 10 packs for 300 Euro. I think something is wrong with this seller. The A-Sub paper seems to be from bad quality because in the reviews people said there were small particles sticking to paper like paper dust etc... So i can not order the A-Sub as well. The ink experts paper would be ok for me but they dont offer the A3+ on amazon, only the normal A3. It seems the A3+ format is not really popular. My thoughts were why i should not get the larget format possible if hte printer can do it. For example some chromaluxe metal sheets are slightly larger than A3, so i would need the A3+. When i want to print a pillow the larger the better in my mind. It makes no sense to buy the normal A3 to me.
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