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Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with the ink from China.

In Australia where I am based all the mugs seem to come from China.

Both of my mug presses come from China and I have had no problems with them.

I'm wondering if anyone has had any experience with Dye Sub ink direct from China.

Most of the sublimated work coming into Australia seems to originate in China so they seem to know what they are doing.

I've just ordered soem and will try it in due course. I'll let everyone know my results in due course.

If this ink is any good it will cut my ink costs drastically.

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wenico wrote:Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with the ink from China.

In Australia where I am based all the mugs seem to come from China.

Both of my mug presses come from China and I have had no problems with them.

I'm wondering if anyone has had any experience with Dye Sub ink direct from China.

Most of the sublimated work coming into Australia seems to originate in China so they seem to know what they are doing.

I've just ordered soem and will try it in due course. I'll let everyone know my results in due course.

If this ink is any good it will cut my ink costs drastically.

Regards


Roy N.
Getting hold of different ink Roy isn't a problem as there are 'sources' available to get it - be it China, Fleabay or the local market.

The problem lies in the ICC Profile that comes with the ink (as does in expensive and supported ink). I 'tried' some fleabay ink and was getting some 'okish' results but have recently changed to sawgrass and boy, can I tell the difference!

Have a look at one of my older posts ( [url="http://www.dyesubforum.co.uk/forum/view ... =17&t=1490]viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1490[/url] ) and see how things went wrong!
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hi. have a look in to review section.
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Thanks everyone

I've got to give this a try.

My current ink costs me $159.50 for each 125ml bottle... I need six diffrent inks for my printer. So that's $957 for all six and they are 125mil bottles

I can buy it in bulk 500 mil bottles for $434.50 per colour or $2,607.00 for teh six colours.

The ink from China is $345 delivered for a litre of each of the six inks.

The same amount of ink from my regular supplier would be $5214.00. That's a huge cost saving of $4869.00 saved for the same amount of ink.

Now as long as I can get the profiles to work.

I'll keep ypu posted but it will take a while yet I still have half a tank of ink left in teh machine and it wouldn't be a fair assessment to mix the inks.

It's worth the risk to try. The Chine inks are supposed to be suitable for Desktop Epson printers. If anyone needs the link for the ink let me know.

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AdamB wrote:The problem lies in the ICC Profile that comes with the ink (as does in expensive and supported ink). I 'tried' some fleabay ink and was getting some 'okish' results but have recently changed to sawgrass and boy, can I tell the difference!
Sometimes the problem doesn't go away just because you use supported inks. My recent experience with a "supported" Epson B40W is a case in point. Using the Sawgrass profile with Artanium ink produced photos with a hideously green cast, making it unusable. I tried everything under the sun to tweak and adjust the photos which led to only one inevitable conclusion - to throw a £100 printer away.

That is until I had the opportunity to make my own profile. After that it worked fine and produced colour-accurate prints.

The lesson I learned from that was that you can't just say that profiles are only a problem for unsupported inks because they can also be a problem for supported inks.
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Can you please give us the information how to make our own profiles


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wenico wrote:Can you please give us the information how to make our own profiles


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You can either get an online company to do it for you (costs about £25 I think - not sure what that is in your currency). Or you buy a printer profiling device - the cheapest of which is currently £300+ but historically they've been at least twice that.
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Thanks for that

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JSR wrote:That is until I had the opportunity to make my own profile. After that it worked fine and produced colour-accurate prints .....
Yeah I read about that - using Pauls thingymebob worked a treat so I hear?

I googled them after finding out the name as I thought it may be worth a few quid ........................ I didn't realise how much they were :shock:
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AdamB wrote:
JSR wrote:That is until I had the opportunity to make my own profile. After that it worked fine and produced colour-accurate prints .....
Yeah I read about that - using Pauls thingymebob worked a treat so I hear?

I googled them after finding out the name as I thought it may be worth a few quid ........................ I didn't realise how much they were :shock:
It is a considered purchase and it's not until you use it that you see the potential. The main potential is the ability to use any Epson or Brother printer that you want to use (Ricoh, too, I guess). You're not just limited to using the ones Sawgrass can be bothered to "support".

A secondary potential is the ability to optimise your profile based on the image you're printing - so if you're printing a particularly tricky photo, you can reprofile to suit.

The third potential is, of course, using other inks. I'm not one to recommend non-Sawgrass ink, of course, but there's the potential for non-OEM regular or pigment ink in one of your printers without having to pay expensive OEM costs. I have an R1800 here that's been sitting idle for two years because I can't afford the inks - but with this device, I could use third-party pigment inks and get it back up and running again.

If you do a number of these things, the cost soon becomes a justifiable investment. That's why I intend to get one for myself in a few months time. I just wish I'd had one years ago.
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