single presses or multi-presses for pressing 300 mugs?

[socialgiraffe]

2-300 mugs /week

Only option is an Oven if its regular work.

One person, 72 mugs per hour.

216 MUGS 3 HOURS
324 MUGS 4.5 HOURS

That is how long it takes me anyway.

This does not allow for warming the oven which takes about 10 minutes.

Cost of a decent oven about £300
Mug wraps £4.00 ish on ebay - you need about 72-96 ideally
Decent set of gloves

So about the same price as 1 twin press yet higher speed and A LOT less hassle on top to bottom print, plus you can get A LOT closer to the handle (about 8mm)...

[Violetsub]

You cannot go wrong with Adkins, you really do get what you pay for with everything in the printing game.

What settings are you using with your mugs?

200oC for 140sec I think, off the top of my head. After the press has been on for a while we sometimes turn it down to 190 for 130sec. We've tried lower temps /longer times but find this works best, except for the duff ones .

[Violetsub]

I did think about ovens tbh but decided to stick with what I knew - I've never seen or used a mug oven!

[bubbleimages]

I did think about ovens tbh but decided to stick with what I knew - I've never seen or used a mug oven!

We are going to sell our ST-3042 oven and wraps as we've not used it for a bit if you're interested in getting into the oven game also.

[socialgiraffe]

I did think about ovens tbh but decided to stick with what I knew - I've never seen or used a mug oven!

Fair enough, however when the time comes that you feel you are a competent "dye subber" who understands how it works then give an oven a go. I promise you, a little bit of tinkering here and there and you will not look back.

You can even give it a go in your own house oven, I would not recommend it long term due to ink gassing off, but for a dabble it's worth it. Buy a wrap from a supplier, or off ebay and then give it a try, 180 degrees for about 6-8 minutes. If you decide to bleed an image top and bottom do not have it extending more than 0.5-1 mm over the edge, otherwise you will get "blueing"

Trust me, once you hit the sweet spot you will be glad you did.

In my opinion, better mugs can be printed using an oven as opposed to mug presses, because you get better results, just an opinion though

P.S. I do not use a mug oven, I just use an oven

[webtrekker]

Fair enough, however when the time comes that you feel you are a competent "dye subber" who understands how it works then give an oven a go. I promise you, a little bit of tinkering here and there and you will not look back.

You can even give it a go in your own house oven, I would not recommend it long term due to ink gassing off, but for a dabble it's worth it. Buy a wrap from a supplier, or off ebay and then give it a try, 180 degrees for about 6-8 minutes. If you decide to bleed an image top and bottom do not have it extending more than 0.5-1 mm over the edge, otherwise you will get "blueing"

Trust me, once you hit the sweet spot you will be glad you did.

In my opinion, better mugs can be printed using an oven as opposed to mug presses, because you get better results, just an opinion though

P.S. I do not use a mug oven, I just use an oven

Same here. I get great results in my kitchen gas oven set at mark 4 to 5. Mine take around 9 minutes. One thing to watch for is if the silicone mug wrap rests on the wire grills in the oven, it sometimes distorts the edge of the wrap resulting in slight fading in that area. This nearly always occurs in the area opposite the handle and is easily corrected by putting a piece of your heat sensitive tape over that area to stop it moving and trying to make sure that area is between the grill wires.

I never get a bad mug now, unlike the times I use my mug presses.

For the sake of 4 quid for a mug wrap it's well worth giving it a go!

[UK Printed Mugs]

Could I jump into this thread and ask those that oven sublimate how important or quick you have to be to remove mugs from oven once time is up followed by removing wraps and then paper from mugs if you're doing 12 at a time? With mug press then we remove single mug and paper within about 5 seconds of end time to get under fan otherwise sublimation still occurs and print over bakes or ghosts (double print if paper has moved). So with 12 in an oven then I imagine our process wouldn't be viable.

[webtrekker]

Hi UK. I use an oven but, to be honest, I haven't done more than 4 mugs at a time. Saying that, the time spent in the oven isn't super-critical, so an extra minute or two probably would make no difference, giving you ample time to remove the mugs and their wraps one at a time. I dunk my mugs in fairly hot water for a few seconds to stop the sublimation. Prints are excellent.

[Andrew]

It's not really precision down to the second on removing but as long as it is less than a minute once time goes you should be okay. Seems to take a bit longer to get the over cooking blur. We usually remove wraps after the next batch has gone in but no real problem in letting them cool before removing most of the time. Sooner you get them taken off the better really as helps the whole process and wraps becoming available.

Whilst we often use an oven I still prefer a press option when possible. Gassing does occurs for ovens when being used continuously all day.

[matzy]

I have one, yes one, mug wrap that I bought a few years ago and never tried. Reading this ignited an interest in giving it a go especially reading how close you can get to the handle and how well it does a full image top to bottom, so I dug out the wrap and gave it a go.. Wow, very impressed indeed, so much so it'll now be my preferred method when doing a mug with a full wrap graphic. It was an Xpres mug, Epson WF7110 using Sublisure ink and Xpres Subliprint paper, cooked at 190 for 7 minutes. Image was very vivid and perfect print approx 6-8mm from either side of the handle with no fading over the entirety of the mug.