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Re: Please any help appreciated
Posted: 10 Dec 2013, 07:23
by andye
I recently bought a 4 in 1 heat press. Everything is fine until I press mugs. Sometimes the images/text appear washed out. Other times blacks come out brown. I am using a Ricoh sg 3110dn printer with sawgrass inks. I have varied the temp and even pressed for 300 seconds. Any advice please.
Re: Please any help appreciated
Posted: 10 Dec 2013, 07:49
by Designandgift
hey andye have you checked the forum for answers?
its a common question that pops up if you search "mug printing" in the search bar. you should find loads of different answers
are you buying good quality mugs?
are you preheating your mugs before printing on to them?
what temp are you pressing at?
where is the washed out look located? near handles, along top or bottom of images?
and are you using an icc profile from sawgrass or your own icc profile?
also which paper are you using?
these are questions that may help alot quicker if people know exactly what is wrong and what process you use
welcome to the forum
Re: Please any help appreciated
Posted: 10 Dec 2013, 09:45
by pisquee
With Sawgrass inks for the Ricoh you need to press with less heat than 'normal' sublimation inks or they burn/over-cook which is normally seen by blacks turning brown. So, for you, turn down your heat (try 160-170 IIRC for Ricoh), and certainly press for less than 300 secs - 180 is a good starting point.
Re: Please any help appreciated
Posted: 10 Dec 2013, 11:50
by NikGrey
I'm using the Mug Press from One of those Multi Presses with a Ricoh like yours (as I am using a Mac I am using the Sublijet-r profile rather than the Power Driver).
I am using settings of 180c (360 on my press as it is in f) and 180 secs - this is the preferred setting amongst members here and I find it works perfectly for me.
The only problem I have sometimes is blow out (where the paper was not touching the mug properly at the top usually) or fading near the handles, which is my press being a cheap one.
But the colours are perfect at those temps/Times.
It's all trial an error and you will ruin a few Mugs, try those settings first though.
I already have my eye on an Adkins Mugs press...
Re: Please any help appreciated
Posted: 10 Dec 2013, 16:43
by andye
Thank you all for your replies I will try your advice and let you know - thanks
NikGrey;80592 wrote:I'm using the Mug Press from One of those Multi Presses with a Ricoh like yours (as I am using a Mac I am using the Sublijet-r profile rather than the Power Driver).
I am using settings of 180c (360 on my press as it is in f) and 180 secs - this is the preferred setting amongst members here and I find it works perfectly for me.
The only problem I have sometimes is blow out (where the paper was not touching the mug properly at the top usually) or fading near the handles, which is my press being a cheap one.
But the colours are perfect at those temps/Times.
It's all trial an error and you will ruin a few Mugs, try those settings first though.
I already have my eye on an Adkins Mugs press...
Re: Please any help appreciated
Posted: 10 Dec 2013, 16:49
by andye
One last thing and remember please I am new to this. What do you mean by power driver? I installed the disc which came with the printer
Re: Please any help appreciated
Posted: 10 Dec 2013, 17:03
by pisquee
If you're using Sawgrass inks, then your computer needs an ICC profile to tell it how to mix those inks to give the correct colour, you can either download this as an ICC profile from Sawgrass and put it into Photoshop's colour management/print settings, or download and install their PowerDriver software. If you have done neither of these things, and only have the standard Ricoh printer driver, then this would explain your colours not being right, as your computer will still think you're using Ricoh inks.
Re: Please any help appreciated
Posted: 10 Dec 2013, 20:13
by andye
pisquee;80631 wrote:If you're using Sawgrass inks, then your computer needs an ICC profile to tell it how to mix those inks to give the correct colour, you can either download this as an ICC profile from Sawgrass and put it into Photoshop's colour management/print settings, or download and install their PowerDriver software. If you have done neither of these things, and only have the standard Ricoh printer driver, then this would explain your colours not being right, as your computer will still think you're using Ricoh inks.
Ok so now I have downloaded SubliJet-R SG3110DN ICC Profile and registered. How do I attach this in photoshop CS2
Re: Please any help appreciated
Posted: 10 Dec 2013, 20:34
by spongerobinson
Re: Please any help appreciated
Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 20:25
by andye
Thank you everybody for your advice. I downloaded the driver and in photoshop attached the relevant profile. Wow what a difference. Pressing at 190 for 240 secs the images are perfect. Thank you