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Re: Wastage Factor
Posted: 01 Dec 2012, 23:10
by Scapaflyer
I was just wondering what percentage people factor in when quoting for bulk mug printing.
I have never really thought about it too much as I always thought it would be what it was.
Today however I did my biggest order to date a total of 230 mug in 10 different designs. I had a total of 9 misprints, one was my fault as I commited the cardinal sin of putting the transfer on, yip you guessed it upside down.
The annoying bit was the other eight where all on the same design mug, so I'm not sure if it is the background colour that is the problem or not.
Still all that said I was happy with the figures as I'd allowed 20 mugs extra.
Re: Wastage Factor
Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 17:10
by edwardsmedia
Uhm I have been thinking about this recently. Could i ask how much are you buying the mugs in at (cost) and Also how much did you sell them for?

Re: Wastage Factor
Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 17:28
by John G

It doesn't matter how much the mugs where bought, or sold for - if you are allowing for wastage its a simple % calculation regardless of costs. In this case it was 4% damages.
Re: Wastage Factor
Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 17:34
by Scapaflyer
I was thinking that 4% was good but what do you guys think is acceptable wastage.
Re: Wastage Factor
Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 17:42
by John G
It depends on design - I did a 200 run for one company, when I first started printing mugs, and knackered around 15 mugs. They came back for another repeat order and by that time I knew the capabilities of the press etc, I tweaked the design a little and there wasn't any wastage at all on that order or since with the new design.
BTW: I was answering edwardsmedia's post about waste, which has since been deleted

Re: Wastage Factor
Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 17:45
by Scapaflyer
No problem I saw his post before it was deleted.
Re: Wastage Factor
Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 17:49
by Scapaflyer
The biggest wastage was due to not getting enough heat into the bottom of the mug which only seemed to be a problem with one back ground, but this was cured by filling the mugs with hot water and leaving then to stand for a couple of minutes before using.
These are all things I guess I will learn as time goes on.
Re: Wastage Factor
Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 18:29
by logobear
the only errors we get with mugs from TMT is human, upside down or wonky prints, so if you are systematic, then zero errors, but in reality, the odd one or two a year ?
15 in 200 or 9 in 230 sounds high to me.
Re: Wastage Factor
Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 19:52
by John G
15 mugs in 200 was high - but like I said, that was in the early days and now I know who to buy supplies from and what's capable, wastage is now nearer the zero mark. Its all a big learning curve and a lot of mistakes are made at the start, unless you ask millions of questions on the forum and get other people to make the mistakes for you.
Now stein's are a different matter all together, having no end of trouble getting a decent print on these, not sure if its because they're not straight sided, or because my mug press blanket is on its last legs.:biggrin:
Re: Wastage Factor
Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 22:32
by Scapaflyer
As I said I am in the early stages of this business, so i expect to make mistakes. The good news is I have done 96 mugs today with a variety of prints, with a total of zero mis-prints.
I think my biggest problem was I wasn't getting the bottom of the mug warm enough before, but it only seemed to be a problem on mugs where the design called for solid blue or purple near the bottom.
Anyway zero mis-prints today so Happy Days