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Re: Sublimation Pens

Posted: 01 Jun 2011, 15:32
by bms
Here's an innovative product - the SubliPen. Now you can print fully customised, full colour one off pens. Arriving within the next couple of days - preview now at the link below...

http://www.printerowners.co.uk/sublimat ... blipen.htm

Re: Sublimation Pens

Posted: 01 Jun 2011, 16:10
by AdamB
Nice Martin, do you need a Halogen oven to do these (as per instructions on your site) or can they be done in a conventional oven?

Re: Sublimation Pens

Posted: 01 Jun 2011, 16:19
by phoenixalpha
Looks good, wouldnt mind one to do a test, although only if they can be done in a non halogen overn

Re: Sublimation Pens

Posted: 01 Jun 2011, 16:40
by Kaz
Why is it only one per customer?

Just curious

Re: Sublimation Pens

Posted: 01 Jun 2011, 17:04
by JSR
Very interested in this.

When will you be able to get larger stocks? And will they be cheaper when bought in multiples? At £7.80 including VAT, the price to the customer is going to need to be quite high and that'll limit the potential market (as it does with all high price products).

Judging by the instructions, I would guess that they could be done in any oven. Whenever I've tried mugs without using a wrap it's never worked well so I'm expecting a lot of expensive trial and error with this product.

There's a very unprofessional video on YouTube:

Re: Sublimation Pens

Posted: 01 Jun 2011, 17:23
by Matt Quinn
I'd imagine the failures would be far fewer than with unwrapped mugs... The 'spare' layers of paper will carry quite a bit of tension; and the knack will be in starting the wrap...

Wrapping-wise it reminds me of a technique I used to use as a kid to repair broken fising rods :-) I used polyester resin (to bond) and old recording tape to bind the rods; you could get quite a steady pressure on with a good wrap...

...And Yes; the video is diabolical! :-D

Re: Sublimation Pens

Posted: 01 Jun 2011, 17:51
by JSR
Matt Quinn;24004 wrote:I'd imagine the failures would be far fewer than with unwrapped mugs... The 'spare' layers of paper will carry quite a bit of tension; and the knack will be in starting the wrap...

I would hope so. With two areas to print, that's double the risk of failure. One failure and that's £8 down the drain. Gulp!

It's a bizarre world when a ceramic mug costs £1 but a pen costs £8. Can't see these being a hot-seller beyond the occasional one-offs at this price.

Re: Sublimation Pens

Posted: 01 Jun 2011, 18:46
by Matt Quinn
It's not exactly a Mont Blanc either :rolleyes:

This would need to be a tenth of the price to be viable IMHO. Completed that's a £12-£15 item tops with packaging... where's the margin?

There is something familiar about that pen though; Mont Blancs are actually made of resin, and there were cheap Chinese copies coming onto the market made out of what was very obviously casting resin... Most Black of course, but some in lighter colours.

Have some of these factories decided to go legit? Who makes resin pens? - cheap ones that is (the cheapest MB is about £120 and they just go up.. and up.. and up...) Kits to make up pens from wood-turned shafts do exist... That's why the internals look familiar. the rest is just a hefty resin tube really....

Interesting...

Re: Sublimation Pens

Posted: 01 Jun 2011, 20:07
by David B
Hi all
I recently sold a Pad Printing business where we sold hundreds of thousands of pens at £120-£150 per thousand. We sold very few of the high quality pens at £2.50-£5.00 per pen. Look great but price prohibitive in my opinium for what its worth.

Re: Sublimation Pens

Posted: 01 Jun 2011, 20:24
by bms
I believe they could be printed in a conventional oven as well as halogen.

Price is an issue and this is the main area of contention! The price we have online won't be any lower on volume and the price may increase by 10p - 20p on low volume and then come down to the price online for packs of these. Unless the buy price comes down considerably then this is the price going forward.

Only 1 per customer at present due to the very small number we have coming in as this is the start of the production. They are being air freighted by UPS to us and then larger volumes can come by sea.