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Re: Jab, or no jab? ...
Posted: 11 Feb 2021, 12:11
by webtrekker
I'm not an 'anti-vaxxer' by any means, but I'm still in two minds whether to have these rushed vaccines. Let me tell you a story ...
My niece works in a local care home. There are 26 people there including residents and staff.
They have been Covid-free since the beginning of the outbreak a year go.
Recently, all residents and staff were given their vaccinations on the same day and now, three weeks later, they ALL have Covid-19, 3 residents have died, and 3 are on end of life support.
My niece was tested TWICE the other day and one test came back negative while the second test came back positive (go figure!). She's at home in isolation now, as are all of the staff, and has been prescribed antibiotics for a chest infection by her doctor. A new team of carers has had to be brought in and the poor old residents have never seen these people in their lives.
In light of all of this, it doesn't instil any confidence in me or my family in taking up any offer of vaccination. This whole thing is a clusterfuck.
Re: Jab, or no jab? ...
Posted: 11 Feb 2021, 12:31
by GoonerGary
The vacinne doesn't stop you from catching or spreading the covid virus. It will only reduce your likelhood of death and reduce the symptoms. If those staff and residents then carry on as if they are safe and immune, then people will die. If residents have had a hospital stay, or an ambulance trip, or even a delivery from a lockdown abusing deliveroo student, then it is very possible that you will introduce the virus into the home. I see lockdown abuse every single day. No wonder the cases are still high.
Re: Jab, or no jab? ...
Posted: 11 Feb 2021, 12:39
by Justin
So many different opinions, so much conspiracy. All I can say is one thing. My Mum was a 'non believer' for want of a better word. She was 79, we lost her at Christmas. If by posting this I can urge just one person to get the vacination then it may just save a family going through the pain we are right now.
Re: Jab, or no jab? ...
Posted: 11 Feb 2021, 13:57
by Andrew
I have had one already and would strongly recommend everyone else does the same. This vaccine isn't starting from scratch but using ingredients commonly used for this type of thing. I am involved with several care homes and had no problems there since.
Sorry to hear of your loss Justin.
Re: Jab, or no jab? ...
Posted: 11 Feb 2021, 17:38
by Mrteajunkie
I’m classed as high risk (big c) and still awaiting mine.
with everything I have induced over the years (through the 90’s particularly) I don’t think I can even say no.
sorry to hear about your loss Justin.
Sadly it’s a story repeated amoung friends and family’s and yet still people are calling fake?
Re: Jab, or no jab? ...
Posted: 11 Feb 2021, 17:48
by pw66
My partner manages a care home, and here experiences are similar to Webtrekkers - though not as severe. All the staff had the Pfizzer jab and within 14 days half developed covid 19. Two ended up in hospital, including my missus. Two thirds of the residents also developed symptoms.
Prior to that the home had been covid free.
Webtrekker - buy your daughter an Oxymeter (about £30). If her sats drop below 92 phone 111 immediately. Her symptoms seem to be mirroring my partners, even down to the antibiotics. If I had left it another day to phone 111 then she would have needed intensive care - as it was she 'only' needed 6 litres of oxygen for 7 days.
NHS advice is that if you can't do your normal daily tasks then phone 111.
I am not an anti vaxxer in any way, shape or form. I have concerns about the speed of the authorisation.
What really worries me is that all of the media is surprisingly 'on message' about the vaccine, and any questions on social media are very quickly being refuted by people with blank profiles. I don't think we would get to hear of any negative stories if there are any.
Make your own decision, and don't be swayed either way, by trolls belittling your opinion or by peer pressure.
Re: Jab, or no jab? ...
Posted: 11 Feb 2021, 19:01
by webtrekker
[MENTION=1]Justin[/MENTION] - so sorry to hear that news. Certainly brings home the severity of this virus when it hits your own family.
[MENTION=6065]pw66[/MENTION] - Actually, it's my niece who's been affected, not my daughter, but I'll pass on your information to her. Thank you.
It just seems to me there's nothing clear-cut about either the efficacy, or the side effects of these vaccines yet, so I'm staying on the fence. We're virtually in total isolation here anyway, which is the best way I know of combatting this.
Re: Jab, or no jab? ...
Posted: 11 Feb 2021, 20:06
by pw66
webtrekker;147263 wrote:
We're virtually in total isolation here anyway, which is the best way I know of combatting this.
You are correct. I am keeping clear of everyone at the moment. I go to one small local butchers shop each week, and work alone in the workshop. Orders are either sent or delivered locally.
Luckily (!) beacause I have just had covid (caught from the missus) I am not allowed the vaccine for a few weeks yet, so I can stay on the fence myself for a little while.
Re: Jab, or no jab? ...
Posted: 14 Feb 2021, 12:36
by Earl Smith
My mum is 97 , demence and has had both the first and second jab. Then a week after the second she fell and broke her hip. Into hospital where she tested negative. They repaired her and gave her another covid test. This time positive and moved her to the covid ward. She has no symptons. 5 days later a second test and negative. Another 5 days later and negative again. They have put her into a seperate ward, alone but in the covid wing. On monday they are moving her out to a care home.
My thoughts are that the vaccine works. You can be a carrier but it protects you as well.
Justin, sorry for your loss. I really hope you had a chance to be with her or see her before it happened.
Re: Jab, or no jab? ...
Posted: 14 Feb 2021, 17:39
by Brant
Have the vaccine FFS