bigj2552;87727 wrote:just found this vid on YouTube guys.....
apparently these machines DONT WORK for mugs - ONLY PHONE CASES.......others are having the exact same problem i have now...
i hope he/the others and myself are totally wrong here....or i will not be a happy guy at all with supplier
read the comments on his channel....others comment were removed he says....hmm..i wonder
Old tread but i decided to get some wraps and try my self how those machines perform with mugs. I must admit that after reading john's posts with nothing but problems i didn't hold much hope lol.
here is what my machine printed.
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Re: mini 3d machine mugs
Posted: 26 Sep 2014, 07:49
by UK Printed Mugs
Fantastic result and I totally agree that the 3d vacuum is superb at sublimating mugs. In fact it was the reason I got into the mug business initially as did some phone cases first then saw the potential. It really is the only way to get a good top to bottom image as we saw in your video. I also tried a convection oven and halogen oven but these gave very poor results. The consistent temperature in the 3d mini oven is great. Although not for doing a large run of mugs quickly. Therefore I use three mug presses now instead and would only use a mug if I had the odd personalised top to bottom print to do which is rare. Useful post so people can see that mugs do work well in this great machine. We bought ours from BMS (printerowners.co.uk) who gave us lots of support on the phone and in person at their showroom.
Re: mini 3d machine mugs
Posted: 26 Sep 2014, 13:02
by bigj2552
my posts are old paul...
mugs come out perfect on these machines...even better than a proper mug machine m8
Re: mini 3d machine mugs
Posted: 26 Sep 2014, 13:17
by bigj2552
800sec per mug ??????
Re: mini 3d machine mugs
Posted: 26 Sep 2014, 13:18
by ArferMo
660 @ 182c
Re: mini 3d machine mugs
Posted: 26 Sep 2014, 13:23
by galerion
The machine is really good for doing top to bottom prints but I'm not always happy with the those wraps. The straightest 11oz mug I've used were coralgraph and the mugs come out fine but if you use a mug that tapers in at the bottom like the BMS or longforte ones you may get some bluring along the bottom. You can fix this with some tape in the center at the bottom of your print.
The only other thing is that I have found printing top to bottom with coralgraph mugs is they will flake at the top and bottom and it doesn't take long for that to happen, I already know from past experience that longforte mugs will flake but I have not tried a top to bottom print on a BMS mug yet.
I do mine at 190c for 360 seconds
Re: mini 3d machine mugs
Posted: 26 Sep 2014, 13:28
by bigj2552
ArferMo;92317 wrote:660 @ 182c
160-80sec @ 190c for all mugs - with a few mods done to the mini sub machine.....will get a vid up later on so you guys can see i,m not taking the p****
phone cases - 100-120 sec @ 190
Re: mini 3d machine mugs
Posted: 26 Sep 2014, 13:35
by Paul
bigj2552;92314 wrote:my posts are old paul...
mugs come out perfect on these machines...even better than a proper mug machine m8
yeah, i know. so it looks like you had knackered unit there.
bigj2552;92319 wrote:160-80sec @ 190c for all mugs - with a few mods done to the mini sub machine.....will get a vid up later on so you guys can see i,m not taking the p****
phone cases - 100-120 sec @ 190
as i said it was my first attempt to do mugs and didn't knew what time i should use. so i remember I used 13min in those ovens ages ago so this gave me a starting point.
is 120sec enough for case????
Re: mini 3d machine mugs
Posted: 26 Sep 2014, 13:39
by bigj2552
Paul;92320 wrote:yeah, i know. so it looks like you had knackered unit there.
got new motherboard upgrades paul...and my m8 done a few tweaks to both machines as well...hence why we can now get those times n temps - will get vid up later tonight if i have time....starting to get busy again
but they are spot on quality wise.....no messing about turning them half way through cooking as with the mug machine....perfect ever time - top to bottom....i,m just trying to master the handles....as in, how close i can get without distortion of the image
Re: mini 3d machine mugs
Posted: 26 Sep 2014, 13:41
by Paul
can you tell what mods? or if they are easy to do? are they necessarily?
is your time with paper or foil?