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pisquee;83937 wrote:I would assume that lower temp sublimation ink would need to be a different implementation and formula of sublimation ink, and not the same as Sawgrass' and so not violating their patent - if it's been invented and used, then it'll have its own patent and protection (unless Sawgrass got there first that is)

There is a myth here - the Sawgrass inks (Ricoh SG3110 SubliJetR and Epson 7890 SubliJet Pro Plus) have both been used to sublimate 3D items at temps as low as 135-140 degrees C. There isn't a 'low temp' sublimation ink and the inks we have supplied to a company manufacturing 3D machines here in the UK are just the standard Sawgrass inks which sublimate perfectly at these temps and 3D machines are sold following demonstrations of exactly this kit.

bms;83944 wrote:There is a myth here - the Sawgrass inks (Ricoh SG3110 SubliJetR and Epson 7890 SubliJet Pro Plus) have both been used to sublimate 3D items at temps as low as 135-140 degrees C. There isn't a 'low temp' sublimation ink and the inks we have supplied to a company manufacturing 3D machines here in the UK are just the standard Sawgrass inks which sublimate perfectly at these temps and 3D machines are sold following demonstrations of exactly this kit.

what about cross -contamination ? if they using the SAME TUBES ect, you will still have deposits of the previous inks ..so i cant see either how they use low temps inks through the same machine

hence prob what martin is getting at...just look good for sales promotion of new product

as for the mugs...if this works right, it should eliminate all errors in printing, none of the cold spots on the mug press ect, or not enough pressure or...you get the drift here.

be nice to just use something that WORKS, with any drama or wondering if this or that is gonna come out right....better for the brain, better for the wallet

What about using BMS as a import agent.

dazzul;83952 wrote:What about using BMS as a import agent.

your wanting HOW MUCH MARTIN ???

bigj2552;83950 wrote:what about cross -contamination ? if they using the SAME TUBES ect, you will still have deposits of the previous inks ..so i cant see either how they use low temps inks through the same machine

hence prob what martin is getting at...just look good for sales promotion of new product

Exactly my point. There isn't a different ink for 3D printing v normal sublimation printing. They are the same inks! In the 3D machine we have then we set the temp to 195 for 6 minutes (with a hot puck). Exactly the same inks are used in a different 3D machine using a different heat process and sublimates at 135-140 degrees C.

dazzul;83952 wrote:What about using BMS as a import agent.

Thanks, but no thanks Import agent means offering warranty, carrying spare parts, offering technical support for an un-known machine, liaising with an unknown supplier etc. If you guys want to club together then be my guest

But what temp were the phone cases printing at in the new machine bigj? I know other UK suppliers were selling lower temp inks with machines as well.

bms;83956 wrote:Thanks, but no thanks Import agent means offering warranty, carrying spare parts, offering technical support for an un-known machine, liaising with an unknown supplier etc. If you guys want to club together then be my guest

is it true martin that they will stop making the old red one as its been called, since the "new" model has come out ?

and....

if the new model is out, that usually means a drop in the previous model price wise, to try and get shot of them ?.

Justin;83957 wrote:But what temp were the phone cases printing at in the new machine bigj? I know other UK suppliers were selling lower temp inks with machines as well.

still in the dark justin till she get things done her end....she said they will be putting a deal together for the machine and the 3d film - dunno if thats just for us, or for public.....and give us more info...

no language problems with this lady -95% fluent english..