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Re: Text image blured on mug

Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 19:06
by Dave271069
didnt know you could get other inks for richo's
i have banding issues excatly the same as yours on my richo sg3110 and i use original gel subl r ink cart, all i can say is my richo is currently sitting under my table switched off and of no use, unless anyone wants to buy it for spares or repairs,

Re: Text image blured on mug

Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 20:19
by cupsforcops
I've re-downloaded the Sawgrass drivers and profiles and re-installed them. I have read the installation instructions step by step and have saved my print menus. According to the instructions you still select your printer, not Powerdriver. I can't actually see that Powerdriver is something that is physically selectable. I have just printed out another test on the paper, and if anything, the previous prints were underinked as this one looks darker, and to be honest probably more accurate to the actual colour. I followed the instructions on setting up Photoshop too.

The ink I have is the Chinese sublimation ink bought on Ebay. I researched it on this Forum and elsewhere, and it gets nothing but glowing reviews, hence buying it. If anyone can point me to some instructions on being able to select Powerdriver on a Mac, or even installing it, that would be appreciated, but for the moment I seem to be getting somewhere.

Re: Text image blured on mug

Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 22:00
by Paul
Dave271069;72844 wrote:didnt know you could get other inks for richo's
i have banding issues excatly the same as yours on my richo sg3110 and i use original gel subl r ink cart, all i can say is my richo is currently sitting under my table switched off and of no use, unless anyone wants to buy it for spares or repairs,
you canget anything in that printer but it wont work very well :)
cupsforcops;72845 wrote:I've re-downloaded the Sawgrass drivers and profiles and re-installed them. I have read the installation instructions step by step and have saved my print menus. According to the instructions you still select your printer, not Powerdriver. I can't actually see that Powerdriver is something that is physically selectable. I have just printed out another test on the paper, and if anything, the previous prints were underinked as this one looks darker, and to be honest probably more accurate to the actual colour. I followed the instructions on setting up Photoshop too.

The ink I have is the Chinese sublimation ink bought on Ebay. I researched it on this Forum and elsewhere, and it gets nothing but glowing reviews, hence buying it. If anyone can point me to some instructions on being able to select Powerdriver on a Mac, or even installing it, that would be appreciated, but for the moment I seem to be getting somewhere.
your problem is that you put Ink to GEL printer that is suitable for water based ink printers ie. epson, brother.
Another bad move is to trying to get descent print (despite wrong ink) with drivers/software that is made for different ink/printer.

3. There is no powerdriver for mac. only icc.

My only suggestion is to get rid of this ink and get supported (more expensive setup) and start printing right away.
Or buy inkjet printer that will be suitable for your needs.

Re: Text image blured on mug

Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 22:07
by cupsforcops
I think I now have Photoshop and print menus set up correctly as my last print looks much more accurate in terms of colour. Haven't pressed a mug with it yet, but I think it's gonna be fine. Paul, what do you mean that it won't work very well whatever you put in it? Are you saying that these printers are not good? How else are we going to sublimate?

Re: Text image blured on mug

Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 22:08
by Paul
Printers are fine! but you need to put RIGHT ink in it. try to put diesel to your petrol car and then have a moan to a dealer that car wont go :)

Also if your settings are right in photoshop this not mean you will have correct colours. to get right colours you need to tell printers how to mix ink. each printer and ink set up will have different combination so you need right icc profile. you cant just snatch firs available from internet as it wont work.

Re: Text image blured on mug

Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 22:16
by cupsforcops
But I am using the right ink, just not the Sawgrass one. As I said, I researched it at length, and everyone who uses the Chinese ink says how good it is and is comparable to Sawgrass and using the same ICC profile. I have printed photographs on it, and they are spot on. My blues for the text are exactly the same as the commercially printed ones I had done previously, so my set up seems good. I've had the teething trouble with the blurring, which thanks to people on this forum, I found out was the mugs. New BMS mugs were sharp, but then the banding started, which I now believe was something to do with wrong Photoshop settings and ICC profile. Hopefully all sorted now.

Re: Text image blured on mug

Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 22:21
by Paul
Let me explain that again. you DO have right (sublimation ink) but not for this printer. there are 2 types of inks. one is sublimation ink that is thin and can be used with epson/brother and another one is more thick called GEL INK for ricoh and is called visi-sub(ricoh) or subli-jet. last two are gel and will work with ricoh ONLY. Ink you own should NOT be used with ricoh.


have you seen this tread yet? http://www.dyesubforum.co.uk/vbforum/sh ... ch-Printer
PAul

Re: Text image blured on mug

Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 22:30
by cupsforcops
Sorry, but I don't really understand what you are saying. The ink I have bought is made for sublimation in the Ricoh printer. I read the Ebay feedback and emailed several people who had bought it, they all said they were getting the same results that they had previously with Sawgrass ink but for a fraction of the price. The ink I have bought it Gel Ink for this printer. I'll find the link where bought it . . .

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Check out some of the feedback.

Re: Text image blured on mug

Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 22:34
by Paul
it does not say is gel ink. its says is sublimation ink for ricoh. i presume this is standard ink in ricoh cartridges. I think its safe tosay that you can only be 100% sure of the content if you buy genuine product.

Re: Text image blured on mug

Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 22:39
by cupsforcops
Paul;72858 wrote:it does not say is gel ink. its says is sublimation ink for ricoh. i presume this is standard ink in ricoh cartridges. I think its safe tosay that you can only be 100% sure of the content if you buy genuine product.
Yeah I understand what you are saying, but for the price!!! I am new to this game and hope to expand into other substrates. I am not new to printing, I was in the printing industry for 23 years until leaving in 2008. I guess the ultimate ink is Sawgrass, but I thought I would take a chance and buy a printer for £89 and the ink for less than £100. Less than half the price of a "licenced product". Apart from my recent problems, most of which being the crappy mugs from Ebay, it seems to have paid off. Only time will tell, and if necessary I will buy Sawgrass in the future, but so far it's looking positive.

I'de like to take this opportunity to thank everyone on this thread that has given me assistance over the past week or so, it is very much appreciated :-)