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Andrew;59590 wrote:That's about a 25p rise for basic subli mugs coming out of China. A few years back they had limited quotas which was going to affect things but that got lifted I believe but I don't see a way around this one for China. It will kill off their supply to the UK as there are plenty of alternative source countries.

Is it "Made in China" or "Sourced from China" with the new law?

I believe it to be 'exported from China', but I'm no expert. The vast majority of our mugs don't come from China anyway but there are a lot of suppliers that do source them from there.

WorthDoingRight;59596 wrote:Glad to read it is only for an initial period of 6 months!

I think the pertinent term is 'provisionally', but as regards the lower rates, how many of those companies supply sublimation mugs as opposed to ceramic kitchenware which is much more popular.

socialgiraffe;59581 wrote:Hi Martin

What does this mean. Will your cheapie mugs be increasing in price and if so do you know what price they will eventually be?

At the moment, until this duty becomes operational, I don't know.

Andrew;59590 wrote:That's about a 25p rise for basic subli mugs coming out of China. A few years back they had limited quotas which was going to affect things but that got lifted I believe but I don't see a way around this one for China. It will kill off their supply to the UK as there are plenty of alternative source countries.

Is it "Made in China" or "Sourced from China" with the new law?

I have had it confirmed from HMRC that it is 'made in China'. Doesn't matter where the goods are exported from as it depends on the origin of the manufacture. This will have a significant impact on all mugs made in China.

So obviously the prices will go up.
But will it also lead to a shortage of mugs, because it will be easier/cheaper for them to export to other countries

A few questions...

When does this come in to effect? I know Martin you are getting some in January. Will these be at the new price?

Also, presumably you, along with many others will simply switch to another country that makes coated mugs? For example India or Thailand (both of which offer a similar quality and standard), although eventually I suspect that HMRC will impose the same duty on those countries also which will possibly will lead to TAMS resurrecting itself

socialgiraffe;60515 wrote:A few questions...

When does this come in to effect? I know Martin you are getting some in January. Will these be at the new price?

Also, presumably you, along with many others will simply switch to another country that makes coated mugs? For example India or Thailand (both of which offer a similar quality and standard), although eventually I suspect that HMRC will impose the same duty on those countries also which will possibly will lead to TAMS resurrecting itself

nothing futuristic here. It CAME into effect in November so all mugs originating from China landing at UK port are subject to the added duty already. Just depends when UK suppliers had their consignments hitting UK soil. Personally I see this impacting on the large wholesalers and lots of suppliers who source from China of which there are many (including those you deal with Simon), and I'd be confident to include alot of eBay sellers. The net effect is that cheap end mugs will increase in price. Several other suppliers will have to push their prices up as they are in collaboration with the big wholesalers.

As for us, I'd be looking to keep our bright white mugs at roughly the same price in January. After that we will need to review if its worth stocking them anymore as the price differential between those and our standard mugs (which are not made in China) will be less significant.