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Re: Other methods of decorating mugs.

Posted: 04 Dec 2009, 10:03
by GoldRapt
Market Mik wrote: Flash (phil) has been talking about me so i decided to sign up and fill you in :shock:

I am using an OKI c5600 printer with standard oki toner altho' i would expect to get the same results from compatible toners, I'll let you know when i try.
My " Kiln" is our gas oven at gas mark 7 for 30 min's
Hi Mik,
Can you tell us more about the process for using asda stonewear mugs please? I have an oki 5600 and would like to learn how to use it in this fashion
regards

Re: Other methods of decorating mugs.

Posted: 04 Dec 2009, 10:27
by Market Mik
GoldRapt wrote:
Hi Mik,
Can you tell us more about the process for using asda stonewear mugs please? I have an oki 5600 and would like to learn how to use it in this fashion
regards
Hi Gold,
Its quite straightforward really. I use magic touch CPM 6.1 paper in the printer to make the transfer. I then press it on the mug using a magic touch mug press and clamps altho you could use an oven if you only have the clamps. In the machine it takes 6 mins in an oven about 15-20 mins.
after the picture is on the mug, i just put it in the oven at gas mark 7 for 30 mins without the clamp, to glaze the image on.
job done.

hope this helps :lol:

Re: Other methods of decorating mugs.

Posted: 04 Dec 2009, 10:45
by GoldRapt
And all with some cheapo mug from Asda mate.
£1 a pop Asda.
Any ideas on the life cycle of the paper, I reckon I have some CPM 6.1 that TMT sent a mate about 3 years ago :D

Re: Other methods of decorating mugs.

Posted: 04 Dec 2009, 10:54
by Flash
Market Mik wrote:[quote="John G":1kgx5kws]Nice one Market mik - that clarifies it a bit :D still not sure as to quality of print and washofability though :lol: if thats a word!
I am sure when my old mate flash gets the mug i sent him, he will destruct test it and let us all know the result john lol
mik[/quote:1kgx5kws]
Sure thing friend Image

Phil

Re: Other methods of decorating mugs.

Posted: 04 Dec 2009, 12:07
by Market Mik
GoldRapt wrote:And all with some cheapo mug from Asda mate.
£1 a pop Asda.
Any ideas on the life cycle of the paper, I reckon I have some CPM 6.1 that TMT sent a mate about 3 years ago :D
Sorry mate, no idea on the life but the stuff i am using is around a year old so give it a go and see. set the printer for heavy paper.
Oh and the mugs are 4 for £1 asda smartprice stoneware mugs lol

Re: Other methods of decorating mugs.

Posted: 04 Dec 2009, 19:05
by accdave
Out of interest Mik, what do you reckon the cost of your mugs are in total ?

Will also be interesting to seewhat cost everyone applies to a sublimated mug. It's obviously difficult to get an exact cost, but I work on £2 per mug which I think is very top end cost.

Re: Other methods of decorating mugs.

Posted: 04 Dec 2009, 19:29
by Flash
accdave wrote:Out of interest Mik, what do you reckon the cost of your mugs are in total ?

Will also be interesting to seewhat cost everyone applies to a sublimated mug. It's obviously difficult to get an exact cost, but I work on £2 per mug which I think is very top end cost.
Hi accdave,
I think Mik mentioned in an earlier post that he can produce a finished 'Asda Smartprice' mug for a meer 75 pence :shock:
That's 25 pence for the mug & 50 pence for the decorating cost. Sounds cheap against your £2.00 for a Sublimated mug........IF the print stays on it Image
It's a method I think I will try before I spend ££££££££ on Sublimation kit, as I already own a Colour Laser Printer.
Now i'm wondering if this method will work in a Mug Press :?: Anyone?

Phil

Re: Other methods of decorating mugs.

Posted: 04 Dec 2009, 20:00
by accdave
Flash wrote:
accdave wrote:Out of interest Mik, what do you reckon the cost of your mugs are in total ?

Will also be interesting to seewhat cost everyone applies to a sublimated mug. It's obviously difficult to get an exact cost, but I work on £2 per mug which I think is very top end cost.
Hi accdave,
I think Mik mentioned in an earlier post that he can produce a finished 'Asda Smartprice' mug for a meer 75 pence :shock:
That's 25 pence for the mug & 50 pence for the decorating cost. Sounds cheap against your £2.00 for a Sublimated mug........IF the print stays on it Image
It's a method I think I will try before I spend ££££££££ on Sublimation kit, as I already own a Colour Laser Printer.
Now i'm wondering if this method will work in a Mug Press :?: Anyone?

Phil
ooops not seen that.

Is that 50p just for paper and ink ?. There appears to be a lot more power consumption in Mik's method. I think my £2 is very top end, would love to see what others think

Re: Other methods of decorating mugs.

Posted: 05 Dec 2009, 07:54
by Stitch Up
If you go down the route of laser sub printing of mugs you'll probably look at the final result and think; "Hmmmmm, I'm impressed". Then, like us you'll print several hundreds or maybe even 1000s.

Then one day you go to one of the trade shows and visit the Novechrome or Xpres stands. There, you'll witness the creation of dye-sub mugs, plates etc etc and you'll think; "Hmmmmm, mine are crap".

Believe me, laser sub'd mugs are crap when sat alongside dye-sub mugs.

And yes, laser sub'd mugs do scratch too, maybe not immediately, but after a while they look even crappier :lol:

Re: Other methods of decorating mugs.

Posted: 05 Dec 2009, 10:00
by GoldRapt
15p a pop for xmas prezzies and getting rid of some old paper I have for the OKI wont have me worrying about what's crap and what's not John, however I do take your point.

With the oven thing though Mik, do you apply new glaze and have you ever tried a JML halogen Oven please?