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I don't know Paul, I haven't got them yet, lol

Will let you know when I get them and have tried them

H2G probably won't be the only victim if this darned downturn continues for much longer. I can't recall ever having seen as many empty shops and industrial units as are out there at the moment.

Kaz;17753 wrote:I actually spoke to Dave on the phone today, and I asked him why H2G had shut down, and he was quite evasive with his answer, but it was along the lines of having redundant stock lying about and not having any free capital to continue. Hmmmmmm

Oh, and I got my ballons for £3.50 P&P lol

So did H2G go bust then and then start again under a different name without the debts of the first company? That's my take on the same person closing one company and starting up a new one selling the same goods.

DREAMGLASS;17726 wrote:You DID realise the easy way was just to press the add to cart button on the sublicut site which brings up Spire View in the PayPal header.

Well, no, I didn't realise this because that would have required me to use their website and add things to a shopping cart. Being unsure of who they were, I chose not to do this.

bms;17764 wrote:So did H2G go bust then and then start again under a different name without the debts of the first company? That's my take on the same person closing one company and starting up a new one selling the same goods.

Sounds like shades of Subli-Nation to me. Keep everything hidden and quiet until someone finds out that they went bankrupt and then the owner says "everyone knew that anyway" - making it all seem like sleight-of-hand trickery. Doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

If they want to keep customer confidence, they could do a lot worse than just telling us what's going on.

I really can't comment on that Martin. I think he was more taken aback about me asking about H2G to be honest.

Kaz;17196 wrote:Not overly impressed with that website, too amatuerish, and hardly any stock on it.

Site is being built little by little and has a number of items listed under "Full List", which don't yet have prices, but will beat any genuine price in the UK.

Kaz;17200 wrote:HA! Maybe not, for one pack of 12 balloons, they want £8.75 P&P.

They won't last long with rip off prices like that

Yep postage price options are an issue on PayPal, so an average price was listed. Message put on site to contact us for a smaller postage quote, for small orders.

bms;17248 wrote:Does anyone know of ANY sublimation supplier who is owned by a "holding company or off shore firm"? Of the main players in the UK this certainly isn't the case and this is very inaccurate.

Even more ironic, if it is a reincarnation of H2G then "if we help you to succeed, we succeed" doesn't bode too well as H2G ceased trading!

Martin, little surprised you're so read to openly attack someone in the same industry you're in. I know one of the views that H2G exercised was recommending other companies (including yours) if they couldn't / didn't supply a certain item. The simple view of helping someone to succeed helps "most" customers realise that a company is there to help them win business, and hopefully repeat that business later. This may be a view that some businesses, in the industry don't agree with.....

In relation to holding companies, etc...A well know company in Wales, another near Luton, one near Derby, one in Essex, as a few examples.

I'd hate to think that there was a real need to apply the "Dog Eat Dog" mentality in helping end businesses in sublimation. Especially when our focus is on custom one off sublimation items and the sell off of xstock for the cheapest prices, to end businesses or other sublimation suppliers.

JSR;17777 wrote:Sounds like shades of Subli-Nation to me. Keep everything hidden and quiet until someone finds out that they went bankrupt and then the owner says "everyone knew that anyway" - making it all seem like sleight-of-hand trickery. Doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

If they want to keep customer confidence, they could do a lot worse than just telling us what's going on.

Actually no one has gone bankrupt, H2G stopped trading on a number of grounds. One relating to personal health, another relating to a slow down in the industry, another in relation to the decline of the pound on the currency markets and their focus on providing top quality products, another in relation to narrowing the focus of business, another relating to an aggressive and imbalanced couple of customers that brought the H2G staff to tears became threatening and more.

So if you want to take advantage of the cheapest UNISUB products in the UK, you know where to go, if not they that's your choice and I'm sure everyone will respect it.

SubliCut;18084 wrote:Martin, little surprised you're so read to openly attack someone in the same industry you're in. I know one of the views that H2G exercised was recommending other companies (including yours) if they couldn't / didn't supply a certain item. The simple view of helping someone to succeed helps "most" customers realise that a company is there to help them win business, and hopefully repeat that business later. This may be a view that some businesses, in the industry don't agree with.....

In relation to holding companies, etc...A well know company in Wales, another near Luton, one near Derby, one in Essex, as a few examples.

I'd hate to think that there was a real need to apply the "Dog Eat Dog" mentality in helping end businesses in sublimation. Especially when our focus is on custom one off sublimation items and the sell off of xstock for the cheapest prices, to end businesses or other sublimation suppliers.

I'm not going to get into any tit for tat comms on this forum as the forum has grown into a friendly group of folk getting and receiving advice - it wasn't intended as an "attack" but seemed very similar to what another subli company did. I wish you all the luck in your venture and I'm pleased that you're here to help clarify and provide commentary on the reasons for setting up sublicut (although I'm still not sure why H2G just didn't carry on - as JSR comments).

SubliCut;18082 wrote:Actually no one has gone bankrupt, H2G stopped trading on a number of grounds. One relating to personal health, another relating to a slow down in the industry, another in relation to the decline of the pound on the currency markets and their focus on providing top quality products, another in relation to narrowing the focus of business, another relating to an aggressive and imbalanced couple of customers that brought the H2G staff to tears became threatening and more.

The suggestion of bankruptcy was because I was talking about what Subli-Nation did - they didn't tell anyone what was going on and, when people found out by other methods, they claimed that everyone knew anyway when they clearly didn't. It's the "not knowing" that gets people talking.

I see the email that came around today (from "traceyp") begins "Hi from Spire-view.com/Hometogifts.co.uk", which makes it perfectly clear that it's the same company. That's all that was needed, really, to stop people asking who the new company was.

That said, this particular email was cc'd to about 20 other people. For a company that promised not to pass on my details to third parties, that's a pretty basic mistake. I don't particularly appreciate it when 20 other people are given my email address without my consent, and I'm sure they won't be too happy either.

However, to draw a line under this, I do wish you success in whatever projects you move onto in the future. I've bought from H2G in the past and was always pleased with your speedy service.

JSR;18090 wrote: I see the email that came around today (from "traceyp") begins "Hi from Spire-view.com/Hometogifts.co.uk", which makes it perfectly clear that it's the same company. That's all that was needed, really, to stop people asking who the new company was.

That said, this particular email was cc'd to about 20 other people. For a company that promised not to pass on my details to third parties, that's a pretty basic mistake. I don't particularly appreciate it when 20 other people are given my email address without my consent, and I'm sure they won't be too happy either.

ouch !! that sucks big big time emails from companies should only EVER be sent to individuals never ever in a round robin style - breaks a few basic rules