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Re: am i missing something?

Posted: 16 Jan 2011, 18:55
by AdamB
Bob700 - how long did you leave it before the test wash?

Re: am i missing something?

Posted: 16 Jan 2011, 19:14
by Bob700
Hi Adam
I left it 24 hours, it was white t's my wife is wearing one right now and it looks really good, even with shipping costs I think New Milford are cheaper than Yolo but both are of comparable quality and Yolo would probably be quicker.

Re: am i missing something?

Posted: 16 Jan 2011, 20:36
by AdamB
Many thanks Bob, it's the 'dark t-s' I am testing at the moment, but it's good to see New Milford also offer dark t transfers ............... I might get a sample pack from them and try them out.

Re: am i missing something?

Posted: 16 Jan 2011, 21:39
by Bob700
There used to be a few good videos on youtube for the New Milford dark & light papers but they seem to have gone. Just looked on youtube, there are some videos on the paper that Yolo supply, if you type in: Jet-Pro sofstretch transfer paper you'll see some good stuff

Re: am i missing something?

Posted: 18 Jan 2011, 16:07
by smitch6
any news on the washing ?????
i'd still like to try and get this working

Re: am i missing something?

Posted: 18 Jan 2011, 16:14
by AdamB
smitch6;14396 wrote:any news on the washing ?????
i'd still like to try and get this working

Yeah - not good news I am afraid!

I did two prints again, the Jet-Opaque® and the 3G Jet-Opaque®(this being the newer version).

I did them yesterday and waited well over 24hrs before sticking them in the machine that cleans things. Again, the 3G Jet-Opaque®has faded so much that it cannot be used. The Jet-Opaque® was better but has marks on it from where it has been washed!

I read a bit about various methods and it seems that the 'spin cycle' can affect the t-shirts ............ and ours spins at 1400! so this could be a factor.

I have run out of 'sample' sheets for dark and was going to order some more and re-test at a spin cycle of 1000 but I am unsure if this would be too much to ask a customer!

At the moment, I'll be telling them:

1. Turn inside out when washing.
2. Don't tumble dry.
3. Iron inside out.

and

4. Only spin on a speed of 1000 or less ??? (the latter to be confirmed)

:frown::frown::frown:

Re: am i missing something?

Posted: 18 Jan 2011, 16:18
by smitch6
oh well back to the drawing board
i vaguely rem seeing someone comment on some bought in transfers for somewhere
i have heard they are really good but obviously unless ordering in a decent quantity for each image it will cost a fortune

anyone know of a good supplier for these????

Re: am i missing something?

Posted: 18 Jan 2011, 16:51
by DREAMGLASS
Having done extensive testing on inkjet transfers, I can confirm that very few stand up to regular washing. Some looked very promising for the first three or four washes, then they start to disintegrate quite dramatically.

Chromablast isn't a viable alternative either, as it leaves a significant 'overprint' deposit that only diappears when the item is first washed (that's according to Sawgrass who make it). Great if you want to present the customer with a product that doesn't look good, or want to wash and iron every tee you sell (not recommended).

A lot of people buy 'instant start up' print packages with no concept of how they will both find and get the work to get a return on their investment. That's when harsh reality of the commercial world suddenly kicks in. A bit of market research can dramatically the opportunity to have a lot of equipment standing idle. The majority of people selling the equipment have very little real interest if your venture fails or thrives as they have already made their own profit. One guy I know has a very profitable and busy venture creating original tees and the only equipment he uses is an airbrush.

As others have already stated, Chinese presses do not automatically equate to rubbish. All but one of my presses comes from the far east and they are used on a daily basis.

Re: am i missing something?

Posted: 18 Jan 2011, 18:24
by smitch6
so Dreamglass in your opinion what is the best transfer paper for cotton T's esp dark?

Re: am i missing something?

Posted: 18 Jan 2011, 18:56
by DREAMGLASS
There is no best paper as such, just papers that wash and wear a lot better than others.

Jet Pro Soft stretch for light tees and Jetwear for darks.

Inkjet transfers are far from ideal for building up a long term business reputation though. OK for promotional products, but not suitable for long term regular wash cycles.