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Re: Very poor quality image with a new CISS Is it Normal

Posted: 14 Feb 2016, 20:39
by Paul
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just a quick thing... if you have 3 useless printers here that are brand new. why not return them? stick genuine carts in and off they go back to the shop! simples!

ps. Pisque tried standard inks and it didn't work with ricoh. they use more pressure to force ink through the nozzles so thicker ink is needed.

Re: Very poor quality image with a new CISS Is it Normal

Posted: 14 Feb 2016, 23:29
by bigj2552
Paul;109212 wrote:Image



just a quick thing... if you have 3 useless printers here that are brand new. why not return them? stick genuine carts in and off they go back to the shop! simples!

ps. Pisque tried standard inks and it didn't work with ricoh. they use more pressure to force ink through the nozzles so thicker ink is needed.

you getting a bezczelny ol cholera in your older age lad lol. :tongue:

cant return them as supplier know i try/used sub inks in them.
got suggestion from justin, so trying that to see how it goes

Re: Very poor quality image with a new CISS Is it Normal

Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 05:08
by pisquee
I did have a thread that was going to show the set up of a Ricoh with Sublinova, but the thread was deleted. If the thread hadn't been, and I had been able to finish it, there would have been photos showing how badly the Ricoh printed with Sublinova - the prints either had not enough ink in places, or were blotchy in others - not an effect I have seen printers do before. Banding wasn't an issue, but certainly ink flowing wrongly through the system was. That is where the experiment stopped really, I couldn't get it to print well enough to get to the stage of creating an ICC for Sublinova on Ricoh printers.
Maybe I had a dud printer, and others have been successful doing this, but I wasn't going to put any more time into it, especially as the thread detailing the experiment had already been deleted.

Re: Very poor quality image with a new CISS Is it Normal

Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 08:15
by Paul
bigj2552;109218 wrote:you getting a bezczelny ol cholera in your older age lad lol. :
What do you mean "old age" cheeky! :D


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Re: Very poor quality image with a new CISS Is it Normal

Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 11:35
by bigj2552
pisquee;109219 wrote:I did have a thread that was going to show the set up of a Ricoh with Sublinova, but the thread was deleted. If the thread hadn't been, and I had been able to finish it, there would have been photos showing how badly the Ricoh printed with Sublinova - the prints either had not enough ink in places, or were blotchy in others - not an effect I have seen printers do before. Banding wasn't an issue, but certainly ink flowing wrongly through the system was. That is where the experiment stopped really, I couldn't get it to print well enough to get to the stage of creating an ICC for Sublinova on Ricoh printers.
Maybe I had a dud printer, and others have been successful doing this, but I wasn't going to put any more time into it, especially as the thread detailing the experiment had already been deleted.



i think it was deleted at the time because of the sawgrass rubbish....now they are out the game, well.....

you could have saved my £200 if i had seen that post...all that beer money sitting here in 3 white boxes o metal :rolleyes:

got to laugh when you say "Maybe I had a dud printer"..what your one and my three....

anyway, getting some other inks though in post in 3/4 days...it was recommended to me as top quality stuff eps for the ricoh.
so...
will try that on one printer first.....if it works, then tickety boo.....will decommission the other 2 epson 3520's, but still em in the cupboard, just in case i need em, then get the 3 ricoh's all working....thats the plan, but it rarely work out .
and the epson 1500w is working as expected..superb !!

if the new inks dont do anything for these ricoh, off to the tip they are going, and will get another 1500 in there place - should have just done that in the first bloody place tbh :rolleyes:

Re: Very poor quality image with a new CISS Is it Normal

Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 15:18
by pisquee
Yes, it was due to Sawgrass that it was deleted (or as far as I remember, their dealers, or maybe one in particular), which was a shame and ironic, as if it had been let to run its course, it would have shown in Sawgrass' favour that you could only use their inks. So either Sawgrass or their dealer(s) assumed that it was going to work.
That printer is sat out in our warehouse, not been used since, wonder if it still works?!

Re: Very poor quality image with a new CISS Is it Normal

Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 15:49
by Vynmarius
I use an old 3300n its working great and for me I don't mind paying for the sawgrass carts because it delivers consistently with the trupix paper, my thought on it are, instead of saving a few pennies per print, add value to charge a few more pounds! and there is nothing worse than downtime do perform maintenance or cleaning!

Re: Very poor quality image with a new CISS Is it Normal

Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 18:22
by bigj2552
Vynmarius;109237 wrote:I use an old 3300n its working great and for me I don't mind paying for the sawgrass carts because it delivers consistently with the trupix paper, my thought on it are, instead of saving a few pennies per print, add value to charge a few more pounds! and there is nothing worse than downtime do perform maintenance or cleaning!

no down time here bud.....to many printers for back up ensure no down time period !
and it nothing at all about saving any pennies either....read my other posts my friend and all will be very clear

as i keep saying...i can get photo quality results with the epson 1500, and even the 3520's gave near same photo results.
people often ask WHY ? why all the printers....if any go tits up, or need maintenance, we always have others to take there place - apart from these horrible little white things sitting here smiling at me :mad:..for the moment.

right paul..share the popcorn m8 :tongue:

Re: Very poor quality image with a new CISS Is it Normal

Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 16:51
by Pinksmiler
I use this printer for sublimation. Had lots of problems with the colour blue printing purple etc. I got a colour profile and everything is good now.

Re: Very poor quality image with a new CISS Is it Normal

Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 14:11
by mags1892
SUBLINOVA is for epson heads only the ricoh ink is much thicker than the Epson ink, viscosity is roughlt 3.5 times epson inks, I have been developing my own ricoh inks and have a new batch due soon to further increase the quality. Its not just the viscosity there are different binding agents and secret stuff in the gel based inks too ;). Ive had the OEM ink analysed and im nearly there ;).