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Re: Website product design software/modules etc.

Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 11:41
by Ucase Ltd
Justin;100675 wrote:Just downloaded and installing on OpenCart. Your WooCommerce seems to work very well ;-)

Aw Thanks :)
Justin;100675 wrote:Install was painless :-) Just setting up a product and getting used to the system, working very well...just getting my head around it! Not getting to add to cart right now so I must be off with a setting ;-)
Wow that was quick! - I've never used open cart but yeah must be a setting off. Probably a stupid questions but have you set a price on the item?

If you get too stuck give me a shout and we'll compare the backend of each to see if we can find the glitch - I imagine they must be similar.

Re: Website product design software/modules etc.

Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 11:43
by Justin
I didn't have the price set in FPD but have now, still not adding, maybe I'm in a test mode or something silly :-)

Re: Website product design software/modules etc.

Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 11:50
by Post
I'm building it in such a way you need to create a single template in Illustrator in PostScript.

From this base template you will need to save different outputs:
- online template: SVG files containing all the layers you would like to present in the designer including your clipmask, cuttinglines, logo's, buttons, camera's, shadows etc.
- compiler template: PostScript file which needs some manual editing at this point. This file should only contain the layers you need to be printed for example the clipmasks, cuttinglines (but not the shadows!) and some print/cut marks if needed for your cutter. This file can contain spotcolors and will honour them in the output (tested with Roland spotcolors for cutting vectors)

The compiler template is built in such a way it can incorporate customer data from you eCommerce product (order and address data). So for phoneskins etc. it can contain an addresslabel next to the product. Yes for vinyl product these are relatively expensive addresslabels, but this way I'm always sure I'll put the correct skin in the correct envelope and it prevents me from printing a separate label on the Dymo. You could also only print the orderID or total item amount in any spot within the template to keep track of you order during manual actions.

Because of this template setup you can customize everything on the print side as you like.

As the names say, the online template is used for in the designer, the compiler template is used to compile the actual PDF after the order is paid.

My workflow will be:
- customer designs personal item online (NodeJS application)
- all design files are continuously saved in an S3 bucket
- when eCommerce confirms payment it will flag the design in S3 for further processing and adds customer/order data if needed
- My Synology NAS syncs with the S3 bucket
- The compiler application runs on NodeJS (on the NAS) and checks for flagged designs
- If flagged it will proceed with compiling (unpaid orders will never be compiled)
- NAS saves the PDF to my Print/RIP folder
- the plotter automatically RIPs and prints

On the resolution part, the application will not downsize any uploads. In the configuration I can set the dpi output for the PDF. So I'll have to check to see what the impact is on my RIP with highres images, but I think a setting between 300 and 600dpi would be more then sufficient. Also because we use S3 the upload is blazing fast, in combination with that the customer can start designing as soon as he starts the upload with a smaller version of the image. This also means the interface is super fast and will not slow down when using large images.
When a customer uploads a lowres image we will do a calculation and alerting, for example images which are able to be printed >200dpi are OK, 100-200 is "Poor" and <100 "Terrible". The solution is similar to the CaseApp.com solution.

The interface in general is built in AngularJS and split in several parts (widgets) which makes adjusting the interface for your website as flexible as possible. Also responsive layout would be no problem. However we have not yet fine tuned the interface yet for touch devices.

Features which will come in a later stage (if needed):
- touch device support
- insert text and clipart layers
- adjust color for background, text and clipart
- use spotcolors for text and clipart (also custom spotcolors such as metallic on Roland plotters)
- upload from Instagram etc.
- helperscript or application to build the template files (to replace the manual edits needed in the PostScript files)
- 3D preview of the product (see www.printio.ru)

As for pricing, I'm not sure yet how I will model it. Maybe in a SaaS like setup (fully hosted), maybe mixed (frontend selfhosted one time fee, PDF compiling as a paid service). But certainly not for a few bucks on CodeCanyon or something like that. But for that matter, this application is built to save on manual labor after you receive an order and is the only application I know so far which works front to back with spotcolor and print/cut support. So for those seriously interested it will save you on the long run. For those who are building a small site selling a handfull of items a week/month, this might be too expensive. Although the SaaS version with a startup fee might be an option for that situation.

I know this might sound very technical for many, but it's all in the detail.

Re: Website product design software/modules etc.

Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 11:53
by Justin
All sounds very interesting. One of my main reasons for doing this is to cut down on the work required after order processed so I'll watch with interest :-)

Re: Website product design software/modules etc.

Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 17:22
by jools
Justin;100681 wrote:All sounds very interesting. One of my main reasons for doing this is to cut down on the work required after order processed so I'll watch with interest :-)
My thoughts exactly - I've been looking at this one. https://shirttools.com/ Not had time for thorough look yet, but promising esp. for dtg

Re: Website product design software/modules etc.

Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 17:31
by Justin
Shirt Tools looks great as well, my only gripe with that is the price at $999, this is above the cost I've been quoted to custom build an app...but that said, this is built and running.

This is a solution I've been offered:

http://www.customink.com/lab?PK=04600

Again this seems to offer the same options but it's very well done imo. Would be good to add value to an order with suggestions of other products etc. I like on some of these apps how you can switch from a shirt to a phone cover and the design stays in place :-)

Re: Website product design software/modules etc.

Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 17:39
by Ucase Ltd
Ditto @Post - Keep us posted.

Re: Website product design software/modules etc.

Posted: 24 Apr 2015, 12:24
by Justin
I installed a fresh OpenCart, I only currently use v1.5.6.4 as I found v2 far too buggy (maybe that's been sorted?) Installed FPD and getting same issue. It does go into the cart but takes ages and doesn't confirm it's gone in either. So, I'm thinking this isn't a particular theme issue, shouldn't be server related either. I've started a support ticket with FPD and we'll see what they say :-)

Re: Website product design software/modules etc.

Posted: 24 Apr 2015, 12:34
by Ucase Ltd
I'm not sure what control you have in OpenCart but it may be worth having a look here to increase you server configuration limits.
http://support.fancyproductdesigner.com ... our-server

I had to do this with mine (changed memory limit to 64m) and afterwards it worked fine.

This may be dependent on any limitation rules set by your host provider as any limits they impose will override this, but it won't hurt to try it.

Re: Website product design software/modules etc.

Posted: 24 Apr 2015, 12:49
by logobear
Justin,
I like the Custom Ink designer, - any link to supplier or idea of costs? - one off or monthly?
The deconetwork is fantastic and no obligation rolling contract with a big community of users and help forums, but it does seem costly, and the UK option does not include payment gateways etc