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Do you have a link please to Revolutions website

I presume this is Revolution Transfers - a google search will bring them up KAZ.

other type with RN (Orca) coating

I'm pretty sure Ocra isn't RN - otherwise it would be called RN. I think this is a chinese/ thai copy of the RN coating.

Thanks Martin, found it

My orca coated mugs don't say RN on them, and I got them from TMT.

Kaz wrote:Do you have a link please to Revolutions website?

Their sublimation range is quite small, so this link takes you to their mug page - http://www.revolutiontransfers.co.uk/pr ... php?cat=19

Delivery is £9.95+VAT

Ironically, I've just been printing two mugs for a friend. One was from the Revolution box, the other wasn't. The non-Revolution one has a white spot where there's a pit in the mug. The Revolution one does not. It's a small sample, obviously, but it's what I've come to expect.

bms wrote:

other type with RN (Orca) coating

I'm pretty sure Ocra isn't RN - otherwise it would be called RN. I think this is a chinese/ thai copy of the RN coating.

I've noticed 8" plates come Orca-coated these days. The coating is dishwasher-safe. Plates never were dishwasher safe but a few batches ago, a batch came with Orca labels on them. I had someone put one through a dishwasher for a number of runs and it came out fine. The old ones barely stood up to hand-washing. They're much better to print with than the old ones were as well.

Whether it's a "chinese copy" or whatever, I couldn't say, but Revolution do state that their mugs are coated in the UK.

If, as you say, Orca is different to RN and I get the pits with RN mugs but not Orca, it suggests the problem is in the coating (or how it's applied) and it's solved by using a different coating (or one that's applied by a different manufacturer).

Either way, I'm throwing away less mugs with the Revolution ones due to white spots. Obviously I'd prefer to go back to RN coated mugs from my previous suppliers but I'm not in this business just to top up the landfill.

Kaz wrote:My orca coated mugs don't say RN on them, and I got them from TMT.

I've never seen an RN mug with an RN label on it, but Orca seem confident enough to have an Orca label put on each of their mugs (and plates, for that matter). No one who's not confident in their product is going to put their label on it, because they know you'll drop them like a stone if the product isn't up to scratch...

...as I will do in a hot second if I have problems with the Revolution mugs.

The owners of Orca have supposedly insisted that the labels are placed on and I find it bit of pain. I only use the Sparta with the Orca coating and it comes from the same UK coaters. The Chinese owners of Orca do a full range of blanks so you might find more and more stickers on the way. The UK coaters bulk boxes are very good as well and the strongest out there which makes a difference. I bought some large Lattes from Listawood before, so a big heavy mug. The dividers of the box were the most mis-shapen and flimsy bit of card I have ever seen in a mug box. Many were broken coming in and when I tried to send the printed ones out evern more got broke. So many things to take into account when picking a mug supplier.

The mugs I'm using just now aren't orca coated, but I'm waiting on a phone call and will go check what they say on the bottom, if anything

All the mugs I have used have blank bottoms except the orca and tams from an era gone by.

Andrew wrote:tams from an era gone by.

Can we go back to that era, please?

Yeah, the good old days when everything was simple.