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Re: Buying inks.

Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 20:35
by pisquee
In big business/multinational/corporate land it's all about money, not who's right or wrong. So, when big businesses like BASF and FUJI make their own sublimation inks, is the cheaper option to go through a lengthy and very expensive IP legal battle in multiple territories, or just pay Sawgrass a license fee?

As part of the TOG settlement, there was an agreement that no-one from TOG or related parties would be allowed to share any information which would/could be used in future legal action against Sawgrass.

TOG were not big enough financially to go all the way through with the battle, and it is a shame, but in the court notes I read, the court had ruled that TOG were not infringing as no enforcing agent was necessary or used in TOG's formulation.

Sawgrass basically seem to be bullies - they say: we have a patent, so do what we say or we will sue you. Most people/companies go along with this, and either out of fear stop doing what they were doing (hence non-licensed Ebay sales dissappearing very quickly), or weigh up the pros and cons and pay the license fee

Re: Buying inks.

Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 20:38
by pisquee
There are plenty of people selling in the real world, and not online, who avoid paying tax - some find legal loopholes and do it knowing it's OK, and some people ignore the rules and break the law. Yes, there is a crackdown on the online side of things, where the data is all logged and easily accessible. But for traders in the real world in small shops, market stalls and car-boot sales etc, where paperwork isn't so abundant and most payments are in cash, there is still a big hole in what HMRC can find out.

Re: Buying inks.

Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 20:51
by Charlie_
pisquee;47741 wrote:There are plenty of people selling in the real world, and not online, who avoid paying tax - some find legal loopholes and do it knowing it's OK, and some people ignore the rules and break the law. Yes, there is a crackdown on the online side of things, where the data is all logged and easily accessible. But for traders in the real world in small shops, market stalls and car-boot sales etc, where paperwork isn't so abundant and most payments are in cash, there is still a big hole in what HMRC can find out.
This is very true, but at least its a start, as in the past I have been victim to people known to be on the dole selling stuff for minute profits, in effect killing the genuine retailer.