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Flash wrote:

NIGELG wrote:You can purchase the equipment but your looking at £5000 for and A3 laser printer

WHAT I don't think so! Here's one:http://www.printerbase.co.uk/acatalog/oki-c810.php

I will have your change out of £5K, that's Christmas sorted
And why A3 for mugs surely A4 will do, and they are a lot cheaper;)

Phil

Hi Phil your missing the point here, the laser printer uses powdered ceramic glaze as a toner not your standard toner powders, therefore when you create your photo image it is a glaze that fires into the ceramic surface not onto it like the MAGIC TOUCH which falls of if you put it on a hot cycle in a dishwasher with a powerball tablet

I have the oki Printer and its fantastic a bit of a space stealer but fantastic quality.

Enjoy

NIGELG wrote: not onto it like the MAGIC TOUCH which falls of if you put it on a hot cycle in a dishwasher with a powerball tablet

Is this hearsay or have you tried the Magic Touch CPM 6.1 papers? Which use 'standard' non-oil based toners and a 'standard' Laser Printer.
I think it important on any Forum that facts are quoted and not hearsay
All I can say is that my friend is selling mugs in and around Southampton using the Magic Touch method and has been for some while, surely one of his customers has put one of his mugs in a dishwasher! Knowing my friend i'm sure he is serious enough about his business that he would have tested his product.

Phil

We've done stacks of laser toner mug printing using the Magic Touch process. I can honestly say that the dye-sub method produce far better quality mugs - there's a huge difference.

Carl Newbury at The Magic Touch always told us the dye-sub method produced far better quality mugs.

Dye-Sub mugs every time.

Simples

Stitch Up wrote:We've done stacks of laser toner mug printing using the Magic Touch process. I can honestly say that the dye-sub method produce far better quality mugs - there's a huge difference.

Carl Newbury at The Magic Touch always told us the dye-sub method produced far better quality mugs.

Dye-Sub mugs every time.

Simples

Ahh! At last, someone speaking from experience! Thank you Stich Up.
Now I can start asking some questions about my Dye-Sublimation set up
Any other methods I should consider

Phil

can soeone pm me the intructions on how i can use me oki 5600 and print on these asda nugs please?
Xmas is coming and I have a cheapo xmas pressie idea.
Don't listawood sell lasewr paper as well as TMT?

GoldRapt wrote:can soeone pm me the intructions on how i can use me oki 5600 and print on these asda nugs please?
Xmas is coming and I have a cheapo xmas pressie idea.
Don't listawood sell lasewr paper as well as TMT?

GoldRapt,
I've asked my mate to have a look at this thread and add to it IF he chooses to Register. He has the exact same model Oki as you. Help could be on it's way!

Phil

Cheers Phil,
fingers crossed then

John G wrote:Couple of questions:
Does he have a kiln to fire the mugs after printing
Do laser mugs scratch off
How much is this specialist toner - basic laser toner is about £80 per colour
Why does he have a spoil rate of 1 in 20

Cheers John

Hi John,
Flash (phil) has been talking about me so i decided to sign up and fill you in

I am using an OKI c5600 printer with standard oki toner altho' i would expect to get the same results from compatible toners, I'll let you know when i try.
My " Kiln" is our gas oven at gas mark 7 for 30 min's

I haven't got a dishwasher but i find it near impossible to scratch the print after it has been baked on and I haven't had any complaints from customers , yet

And my spoil rate is not cos i'm not very good as some peeps would have you believe ( Thanks Phil ) but because cheap mugs can have flaws and the sudden heating in the mug "press" can cause these flaws to expand and crack the mug.
This evening i printed up 36 mugs and one cracked.
The other factor affecting the spoil rate is that the mug clamps expand slightly and after a while there is not enough pressure at the top and bottom of the transfer so the toner does not transfer properly producing a spoiled mug. I have overcome this by printing about 6 mugs then waiting a while for the clamp to cool before starting again (i put the clamps in the fridge for a few mins).

Like most things its a game of trial and error and it just takes a while to find what suits your situation.

Nice one Market mik - that clarifies it a bit still not sure as to quality of print and washofability though if thats a word!

John G wrote:Nice one Market mik - that clarifies it a bit still not sure as to quality of print and washofability though if thats a word!

I am sure when my old mate flash gets the mug i sent him, he will destruct test it and let us all know the result john lol
mik