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simon, any chance you could print out 1 design for me and put it in a envelope? im loosing the will to live here, i can send it to you in photoshop format if it helps...
Email it over dave and I will print, cut, weed and post tomorrow.

Don't give up mate, we all get jobs like this and have all had experience of paper/machines not working the way they should.
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Simon what would you print it with and on what please?
Hi Goldrapt

I will print this on my versacam print and cut. However i could also use my OKI White but I do not have any WOW paper in stock. Either process produces darn fine results :-)
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hi Simon, thanks, let me know if you got it...
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Received, sent an email also asking what colour the garment is?
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Green, army green,
a woman in work ordered it from my Facebook shop before i had chance to change all the colors to basic red, black, white, blue
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socialgiraffe;78633 wrote:Hi Goldrapt

I will print this on my versacam print and cut. However i could also use my OKI White but I do not have any WOW paper in stock. Either process produces darn fine results :-)
Hi Simon, yes I knew you could do it on your versacamm (SP540?) I was more interested on what you use in the versacamm. Is it huge rolls of transfer paper?
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Is it huge rolls of transfer paper?
Yes, normally I purchase Soldark from TMT. I have found this to be the best price and best hand. I have used Siser in the past which is from Grafityp which is pretty good and I am currently testing sports flex from Target which has given good results so far. All the rolls come in 500-750 width and a roll is normally 25 meters.

The key thing is to get a decent application roll as well. I have tried pretty much all on the market and find that Siser's Evolution is the best. Nice and thin, not too tacky and is a hot peel which speeds up the process considerably versus cold peel versions.
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Dave271069;78629 wrote:what i find is it is so difficult to peel off the backing i end up smudging ripping etc etc the image.. think im going to send a link to this post to there facebook page.
I have the same problem with JSPS, It is a HOT Peel and doesn't come off in one go as it rips and sometime is like a jigsaw puzzle.
I use greaseproof paper as a Teflon sheet replacement and I am wondering if this might have something to do with the problem.
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Sorry for jumping into this thread so late but I hope we can help by sharing our experience of using the transfer papers that we currently stock. As discussed in the thread, there are questions surrounding inkjet vs laser and what printer to choose.

Our inkjet papers are currently more popular than our laser papers. We think that this could be down to the fact that most people start out using inkjet printers and get used to products like Jet-Pro Sofstretch and 3G Jet-Opaque. Jet-Pro Sofstretch is probably one of the thinnest transfers on the market which is why it is so popular. It is always best to print our inkjet transfers with pigment inks rather than standard dye-based or sublimation as pigment inks are more water resistant and wash better. We mainly use an Epson DX9400F printer for testing inkjet printers as it comes with Durabrite (pigment) inks. We find that Epson tends to be the most popular brand of inkjet printer amongst our customers most likely because many Epson printers use pigment ink cartridges. Inkjet papers will print on virtually any paper setting and rarely ever jam and for that reason, most technical queries tend to be with the laser papers.

From our experience, if your printer budget is at the lower end (£100-£200) then you'll probably get a more reliable inkjet printer. We were fans of inkjet papers until we purchased an OKI C610 (around £500) for testing the laser papers. This changed our view as the print quality is superior to our Epson inkjet printer. We have successfully used our OKI to print all of our laser papers but with laser printing you have to be prepared to carry out tests to find the optimum settings. From our experience, laser papers (especially self-weeding) are more sensitive to pressing temperatures and pressure. Therefore, laser printing is an option for people looking for a longer term solution and you will need a bit of patience. Finding the right printer setting for a laser printer is the most common technical query. This is the advice we give when trying laser papers for the first time...

[INDENT]Run a few sheets of blank paper through your printer to warm it up and select normal print/image quality. Starting with a normal or plain paper setting, print one sheet of transfer paper at a time using a bypass tray if possible. Gradually increase the paper weight setting* until the toner fuses well and the image does not smudge.[/INDENT]
[INDENT]*Papers will usually work better on a slower paper setting e.g. heavy paper, transparency or label mode but always start with a normal paper setting and increase the paper weight setting gradually to reduce the chance of jamming.

[/INDENT]
You should not be able to smudge the image after a couple of minutes of it being printed. If the image can be smudged then the toner is not fused properly. You can usually solve this by choosing a slower paper setting. An advantage of choosing laser over inkjet is the ability to use self-weeding papers. Digi-Trans and Image Clip Laser Light/Dark/Koncert T's are the self-weeding papers that we stock. Digi-Trans has showed reduced washability with some printers (regardless of printer price) so is best for promotional items or items like tote bags which won't be washed often.

The next most common query is about contour cutting, weeding and peeling. Cut settings are really important in order to make the weeding process as easy as possible. Our Laser 1 Opaque paper (laser paper for darks) has a slightly higher peel force than our equivalent inkjet paper and it therefore becomes more critical that the blade only cuts the film layer (upper layer of coating) as even lightly scoring the backing paper (carrier sheet) will make the image much more difficult to peel away from the backing.

If someone is genuinely interested in switching from inkjet to laser then we can supply printed samples using our OKI C610. We have listed the settings we use for our printer below but these are likely to vary between different printers. We also always use the Multipurpose tray when printing.

  • Digi-Trans - Ultra Heavy 2 (189-220g/m2)
  • Techni-Print 4.0 - Heavy (105-120g/m2)
  • Laser 1 Opaque - Ultra Heavy 1 (121-188g/m2)
  • Image Clip Laser Light - Heavy (105-120g/m2)
  • Image Clip Laser Dark - Heavy (105-120g/m2)
  • Image Clip Koncert T’s - Heavy (105-120g/m2)
  • Mugs ‘n’ More - Medium (83-104g/m2)
We hope that some of the above might be of use. The big thing that we have learnt ourselves is that image transfer is not an exact science. Settings often need to be adjusted for different equipment and substrates :S
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Hi Yolo

Very good that you are here to respond to specific issues with your papers, however I think that the issues Dave is having need a more specific answer. If you look at the images he has uploaded, when he peels the transfer from the backing sheet it starts to rip as if the backing sheet is stuck to the transfer. If I were to offer an opinion it would be that the transfer is passing through the OKI to hot, but then I do not use your papers so could be well out.

I know that Dave is using a 610 so would assume he is using your recommended settings also, so what else would cause the backing sheet to stick to the transfer?

I have included Dave's original photo below to save you trawling through the threads.

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