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Re: Mug Ovens

Posted: 19 Nov 2012, 21:13
by socialgiraffe
Hi Jennywren

Have you ever tried printing on the handle?

Re: Mug Ovens

Posted: 19 Nov 2012, 22:15
by jennywren
yes but only my burnt fingerprints came up. lol ( no but that idea I will try) and let you know the results when I do it.

Re: Mug Ovens

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 20:00
by bms
socialgiraffe;59282 wrote:Hi Jennywren

Have you ever tried printing on the handle?
I'd have thought this would be a possibility with the vacuum heat presses.

Re: Mug Ovens

Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 01:19
by socialgiraffe
Hi Martin, you are probably right, but I was thinking that if you could tape down securely a simple image that it might work in an oven.

Come on Jeenwren get testing :smile:

Re: Mug Ovens

Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 17:45
by SciArtImages
Right, had the oven on today, and a faulty mug spare so I thought I'd try printing on the handle. (Mugs BMS RN coated, trupix, Ricoh + SublijetR, 17 minutes 200C (in a clamp anyway to keep consistency with rest of run).
So you can, but it is a bit of a faff. I taped it as best I could, but you can see from these (rather poor) pics that good contact is (obviously) essential. Might be feasible for putting a web address on the outside of the handle (if total perfection is not essential), though the print does go right round the handle (though not very well) on the top and bottom horizontal sets of stripes.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]1308[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]1309[/ATTACH]

So in brief, yes it is possible to print the handle in an oven.

Neil.

Oh, forgot to add the mug I printed on was previously printed, and very little ink came off onto the protective paper I wrapped it in, so in answer to a question a long time ago, it would be possible to pre-print a run and then add names etc (presuming it will print OK second time round - no reason I can see why not) or to add things that were omitted.

Re: Mug Ovens

Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 18:00
by socialgiraffe
Hi SciArt

Thanks for the info and this is really very interesting to me and I can see many uses for it. If for example you limit the print area to get consistently good results I still think it has nice potential as an add on service that could be charged quite high in my opinion.

So nice to be reading a thread that is not about cheap printers or cheap dye sub inks :smile:

Re: Mug Ovens

Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 18:12
by SciArtImages
Yes, I think if you were to limit it to the 'flattest' part of the handle then it would be feasible. I tried the top and bottom stripes mainly to see if the coating went right round!

Neil.

Re: Mug Ovens

Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 18:41
by GoldRapt
socialgiraffe;59280 wrote:I suspect Goldrapt it is possible but then I think you would use a lot of tape.

Personally I do not use ovens as they take too long when you are doing a run of 500. However this thread got me thinking about purchasing one and seeing if printing on the handle would be possible. I think in theory yes and it would be nice if someone with an oven could give it a go.
My understanding is that there are several tyoe of oven, The JML type that will do 4 at a time, a proper kitchen convection oven that will do ....20??.....at a time, and a microwave type which uses convection on a turntable. Certainly it would be nice to hear from those who own and use these different types for their opinions.
jennywren;59281 wrote:I use one and have a mug press, I found the mug oven good, have used one for over two years, happy with the way it performed, just had to be careful of burnt fingers. I use when I have a order that needs consistently to be the same in colour. Heats my kitchen lovely, I cannot fault it.
Which one is your please Jenny, you're not using you food oven are you?
SciArtImages;59465 wrote:Right, had the oven on today, and a faulty mug spare so I thought I'd try printing on the handle. (Mugs BMS RN coated, trupix, Ricoh + SublijetR, 17 minutes 200C (in a clamp anyway to keep consistency with rest of run).
So you can, but it is a bit of a faff. I taped it as best I could, but you can see from these (rather poor) pics that good contact is (obviously) essential. Might be feasible for putting a web address on the outside of the handle (if total perfection is not essential), though the print does go right round the handle (though not very well) on the top and bottom horizontal sets of stripes.

So in brief, yes it is possible to print the handle in an oven.

Neil.

Oh, forgot to add the mug I printed on was previously printed, and very little ink came off onto the protective paper I wrapped it in, so in answer to a question a long time ago, it would be possible to pre-print a run and then add names etc (presuming it will print OK second time round - no reason I can see why not) or to add things that were omitted.
Thank you for trialling this, it answers the question as to how far the coating covers a mug.
I must agree with Simon though, there is a lot of potential for idea's here and I don't think it's just web addresses .
For example, these are airbrushed pens but think how similar in size they are to mug handles
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 1757_n.jpg

Re: Mug Ovens

Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 19:06
by bms
SciArtImages;59465 wrote:Right, had the oven on today, and a faulty mug spare so I thought I'd try printing on the handle. (Mugs BMS RN coated, trupix, Ricoh + SublijetR, 17 minutes 200C (in a clamp anyway to keep consistency with rest of run).
So you can, but it is a bit of a faff. I taped it as best I could, but you can see from these (rather poor) pics that good contact is (obviously) essential. Might be feasible for putting a web address on the outside of the handle (if total perfection is not essential), though the print does go right round the handle (though not very well) on the top and bottom horizontal sets of stripes.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]1308[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]1309[/ATTACH]

So in brief, yes it is possible to print the handle in an oven.

Neil.

Oh, forgot to add the mug I printed on was previously printed, and very little ink came off onto the protective paper I wrapped it in, so in answer to a question a long time ago, it would be possible to pre-print a run and then add names etc (presuming it will print OK second time round - no reason I can see why not) or to add things that were omitted.
i guess in theory you could also use the cap press attachment to press onto the curve of the handle.

Re: Mug Ovens

Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 19:15
by Andrew
You used to have a cap press accessory as part of the old Domglobal multi mug press. Also a small pad for the base.