Best A4 sub printer

[Ian M]

Ianm, what persons have been supported for many years? I know that wide formats have been but was not aware of any desktop machines which is probably what WDR was referring to?

I have no idea which persons have been supported many years.

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If you are meaning which Epson printers have had Sawgrass inks available for them either in cart form, or via ICC profiles available for bottled ink then there are download links to some of the discontinued printers on Sawgrass' website, although the list certainly isn't exhaustive, as I'm sure they used to have at least ICCs available for the Stylus 1520/3000 series printers, if not actually having carts for them (these were circa 1998)

[bms]

I have been using an Epson S22 with refillable carts and Rotech inks. Prints are VERY slow but nice and vivid when they print !!
I don't use the printer often enough and each time I have to remove the carts and 'bleed' them so obviously air is getting in somewhere:frown:
Time for a change to gel ink system me thinks.
Called Xpres about Ricoh GX3300 but that's dicontinued and they tell me there are banding issues with the replacement (anyone have problems?) so offered the Epson WP4015DN. Any advise as to which one to go for? Martin @ BMS may offer some advise.

Hope to hear back soon as I have a job for 250 mugs waiting so need to sort this ASAP
cheers al
Paul @ IPM

It's strange that Xpres don't sell the Ricoh, but I think that's a marketing ploy really as few of us sell the Epson. Why? Well if we offered an A4 cartridge based system for £x and then had exactly the same but branded Epson at £x++ we'd be asked the question, why do you have both and which is the best one. In all the Ricoh SG3110's we sold I've yet to have a banding issue as referred to. The Epson WP4015 is more expensive to buy and the ink replacement costs (per ml) are more expensive than the Ricoh. Given the Ricoh SG3110 works perfectly and is fully supported, comes with PowerDriver (as does the Epson WP4015) then apart from the different inks, the one to buy is a no-brainer to me = Ricoh SG3110.

[bms]

If you are meaning which Epson printers have had Sawgrass inks available for them either in cart form, or via ICC profiles available for bottled ink then there are download links to some of the discontinued printers on Sawgrass' website, although the list certainly isn't exhaustive, as I'm sure they used to have at least ICCs available for the Stylus 1520/3000 series printers, if not actually having carts for them (these were circa 1998)

We still have customers buying sublimation cartridges for the Epson 3000!

[WorthDoingRight]

Well BMS has spoken and given you the best value for money option out of the two models. So unless you absolutely must have an Epson (and then I would be asking why?) then the Ricoh looks your best bet.

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We still have customers buying sublimation cartridges for the Epson 3000!

We did get a 3000 after giving up on our 1400 after having no end of trouble keeping it going as we also wanted to go bigger, and liked the idea of roll feed, but the 3000 struggled to pull normal sheet paper through properly (straight) and it was so slow at printing, as well as a nightmare changing settings on it. We quickly traded up to a more up-to-date and bigger machine. But the actual print quality was good, and having 220ml refill carts instead of thimble sized or a flakey CISS was a breath of fresh air. I still have the refill carts lying around if anyone wants them!

[IPM]

It's strange that Xpres don't sell the Ricoh, but I think that's a marketing ploy really as few of us sell the Epson. Why? Well if we offered an A4 cartridge based system for £x and then had exactly the same but branded Epson at £x++ we'd be asked the question, why do you have both and which is the best one. In all the Ricoh SG3110's we sold I've yet to have a banding issue as referred to. The Epson WP4015 is more expensive to buy and the ink replacement costs (per ml) are more expensive than the Ricoh. Given the Ricoh SG3110 works perfectly and is fully supported, comes with PowerDriver (as does the Epson WP4015) then apart from the different inks, the one to buy is a no-brainer to me = Ricoh SG3110.

Good enough advise for me, thanks to all that replied. Martin, will be in touch tomorrow to place my order.
cheers
Paul @ IPM

[IPM]

Good enough advise for me, thanks to all that replied. Martin, will be in touch tomorrow to place my order.
cheers
Paul @ IPM

forgot to say, Ricoh it is

[Ian M]

Paul if you were a Premium member here you would get a 10% discount from Listawood as they also sell the Ricoh SG3110. http://www.listawoodtradesupplies.com/i ... ICOH&pgnum=

[socialgiraffe]

Listawood £299.99 (less 10% premium members discount) + VAT = £323.98 plus delivery

BMS £279.95 + VAT = £335.94 plus delivery. However you get the equivalent of £25.00 cash back in loyaty points with BMS which effectively means £310.94


I still strongly recommend you become a premium member though