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just bought the small regular carts to use solely for cleaning fluid, and 100ml of cleaning fluid....and of course the inks .

cheers bud

johnny

Well I am not too sure whether you really need to flush it out if it has only been used for standard brother ink cartridges. I would have thought it was just a matter of swapping the cartridges and doing a head clean a couple of times. Infact I spoke to a technician that said that all they use to clean the printer heads/tubes etc is deionised/distilled water. Brother uses at least as far as I am aware pigment ink for their black cartridges and it would surprise me if they did not use similar pigment for their colour cartridges.

WorthDoingRight;51443 wrote:Well I am not too sure whether you really need to flush it out if it has only been used for standard brother ink cartridges. I would have thought it was just a matter of swapping the cartridges and doing a head clean a couple of times. Infact I spoke to a technician that said that all they use to clean the printer heads/tubes etc is deionised/distilled water. Brother uses at least as far as I am aware pigment ink for their black cartridges and it would surprise me if they did not use similar pigment for their colour cartridges.

morning worth :biggrin:

as your saying goes "if i jobs worth doing-its worth doing right"....LOL....and its a true sayin bud .
as JSR says, he's sure brother have pigment in there black but why even take the chance.
the flushing fluid @ £9.98 for 2x100 ml bottles and the new pigment inks @£18 plus new small carts for flushing @ £12 aint excactly gonna break the bank to make sure the jobs done proper and the results when printing are optimal

WorthDoingRight;51443 wrote:Well I am not too sure whether you really need to flush it out if it has only been used for standard brother ink cartridges. I would have thought it was just a matter of swapping the cartridges and doing a head clean a couple of times. Infact I spoke to a technician that said that all they use to clean the printer heads/tubes etc is deionised/distilled water. Brother uses at least as far as I am aware pigment ink for their black cartridges and it would surprise me if they did not use similar pigment for their colour cartridges.

When I use the cleaning fluid to flush, it's not just to flush - it's so that I know when the ink has changed to the new sort. There's quite a bit of ink in the lines between the cartridge and the printhead, and it could be some time before the new ink comes through. If the intention is to start printing with the pigment asap, then it's useful to know that you are actually printing with the pigment, and not with the old stuff that's sitting in the lines. This is doubly important when you consider that not all inks are used up at the same time so you could end up with some of the ink as the old stuff, and some as the new stuff. Not only might this lead to unexpected results (if, say, you're printing a photo and the ink changes part way through) but it'd also skew any custom-made ICC profiles you're using.

If none of that is important then, as you say, may just as well skip the middle step. I wouldn't do that myself, but that's the way I am. (paranoid! :biggrin:)

^^^^ excactly what JSR says above...thats why i,m doing it....not paraoid, i just want to make sure 100% that i,m NOT printing with the old "ordinary" inks that came with the printer !.
paper and t-shirts cost money bud....

Well, if a jobs worth doing right then buy a laser printer lol (or better still buy off me) rotflmao

I got home last night to find a massive box in the hall containing a new colour laser printer that the wife decided I needed! Now she is moaning as I do not have the right paper to use with it and thats my fault lol. The fact that I have only ever owned inkjets might have something to do with why I have no laser transfer papers - but thats my wife for you.

So hopefully now waiting on Yolo to see if they have any samples and TMT information on their range.

Also finally got an account sorted with BTCactivewear so hopefully that will help with consistant shirt supplies.

great with the laser printer bud....and even better with acc with activewear...

i also looked at laser printers but decided no.....hell, i got enough here lol
There is only 2/3 of us here ...think i got enough here to be contending with me thinks...

WorthDoingRight;51449 wrote:Well, if a jobs worth doing right then buy a laser printer lol (or better still buy off me) rotflmao

I got home last night to find a massive box in the hall containing a new colour laser printer that the wife decided I needed! Now she is moaning as I do not have the right paper to use with it and thats my fault lol. The fact that I have only ever owned inkjets might have something to do with why I have no laser transfer papers - but thats my wife for you.

So hopefully now waiting on Yolo to see if they have any samples and TMT information on their range.

Also finally got an account sorted with BTCactivewear so hopefully that will help with consistant shirt supplies.

I have two laser printers here, but they don't get used. Why? Because they're too expensive to run! Yeah, it sounds daft doesn't it? But if you look into the running cost of laser printers, particularly the entry-level ones, then they're just a joke.

When I switched to my Brother ink-jet last year, I bought 4x100ml of ink for £10 and only now (20 months later) has the black started to run out. The other three colours still have plenty left. With ink at this price, I don't worry about printing anything. Before this, either with the laser printers or other inkjets, I would always worry about printing costs and, more often than not, I wouldn't print. Now, I just don't worry - I just print. £10 for 20 months worth of printing is a price-per-page that most laser printers can't match (and, yes, I did try refills for my laser but it was just too much hassle).

Of course, if you're planning on doing laser transfers then there's not much point looking at inkjet printers is there? :biggrin::biggrin:

Well, I have priced up the oem refills which for the 4 colours are roughly £150 in total. However these are supposed to do 11,000 pages @ 5%. So roughly 1.5p per sheet at that coverage. Even if each A4 sheet was full coverage then still only 30p per sheet which I suppose compared to the transfer paper cost is still minimal. I do have my brother printer for sublimation and an epson for standard print work along with another basic canon machine in backup. Like I said this is the wife spending money we dont have in the hope of getting a complete setup going with the aim of moving into a small retail establishment at some stage.

WorthDoingRight;51467 wrote:Well, I have priced up the oem refills which for the 4 colours are roughly £150 in total. However these are supposed to do 11,000 pages @ 5%. So roughly 1.5p per sheet at that coverage. Even if each A4 sheet was full coverage then still only 30p per sheet which I suppose compared to the transfer paper cost is still minimal. I do have my brother printer for sublimation and an epson for standard print work along with another basic canon machine in backup. Like I said this is the wife spending money we dont have in the hope of getting a complete setup going with the aim of moving into a small retail establishment at some stage.

That's kind of what I did when I used to use my colour lasers for printing. Then I ran into the stage of having to find multiples of £70 for each toner cartridge - when three ran out at the same time, that was it really. So I looked into refilling them, which worked out to about 1/4 of the price but it was just too much hassle (and mess).

Laser printers also have additional expenses beyond just toner. My last colour laser was an Epson Aculaser which produced very good results, and there are reasonable-priced compatibles and/or refills these days - but, when the photoconductor unit/transfer belt expires, it's going to cost more than the printer did (so I've not used it for about two years now).

Once was a time when lasers were a "no-brainer" over inkjets. These days they tend to be just as much of a "disposable" printer as the inkjets are. While inkjets typically have waste pads that fill up, so lasers have those expensive photoconductor/transfer belt doohickies.

All you can do is to run 'em 'til something expires/breaks, then chuck it in the tip. That's a great message for being "green", isn't it? :rolleyes:

Out of interest, which laser did you opt for anyway? I'm interested to know if they've changed much since the last time I looked into them. Thanks!