copyright needed ????

[Renniwano]

As the saying goes.. if you never as, you'll never know

[bigj2552]

neither company has got back to me so.....
either they -
dont give a dam or they are waiting to see if i print one and try and sell it on my site then - BAM ...TRADE N STANDARD boys down my neck.

think i will give this one a miss some how.....way to risky....
think mrsmaggot said - "print/design your own gym logo/s".....def the safer way to go

[logobear]

While you don't want anyone breathing down your neck, trading standards are easy work compared with copy write lawyers. I have not had either, and long may that continue, we are diligent in not printing anything we are not sure .about.
Tread carefully

[TonyMast]

I can't imagine that the word gym can be copy righted, so the best idea would be to come up with a design of your own and then add the word into the design along with any other words you might want to call yourself. The nice thing about this type of thing is the ability to "create" using a bit of software (DPT) and the press to bring it to life.

regards

Tony

[WorthDoingRight]

Well if the words London and 2012 together can be copyrighted then I am not so certain the word Gym couldn't be in this weird world we live in.

[Kahboose]

I never use a logo thats copyrighted without permission.

Im quite lucky at the moment Im only at hobby level, But ive just managed to land a small contract to do my sons Kickboxing club and Jiu Jitsu Academy's gear in vinyl print landing me permission to use thier No Fear and well known club logo's.

But i had to get the permission in writing off the club and its sponsors before i started.

Id be very careful using any logo without permission.

[TonyMast]

You maybe right Richard, Legislation in general can be very confusing on the issue, but the way I see it obvious ones like London 2012 have been heavily in the press so need to be "very carefully" considered but I'm pretty sure "2012 in London" is not covered, as an example of word play. Combination of words, colours used and associated wording allows for the words to be used in differing circumstances. Perhaps a thread dealing with the Legislation might be of help to us all.

"Second" to worst case situations is you get a letter from someone that thinks they have copyright on words and then you deal with it to get them to show where they have "legal" or/and "lawful" sole use to the use of a particular word or combination of words, and then be prepared to argue you corner if you think you are right.

(of course the worst case situation is straight to court, in which case they have not given you the opportunity to rectify the matter so arguably they with be held in contempt of the court by not doing so.) All very expensive to the claimant, especially against someone that has little financial resources to sue for. (And that would be most of us I would think!)

Long and the short of it, fair play in your dealings with others is "usually" enough in most situations!

Final word from me on this: English is "common" to all so don't be afraid to use it, but be careful of how it is used in Logo format!

regards

Tony

[JSR]

I'm pretty sure "2012 in London" is not covered, as an example of word play.

I think you would need to read up on this: http://www.london2012.com/documents/bra ... -marks.pdf

If your "2012 in London" is used in a design that is completely unrelated to London2012, then you may just - if you're supremely lucky and pray to the right gods - get away with it. Just using the phrase, or using the phrase on a design that could be construed as having some connection with London2012 will see you hauled across the coals and hot spikes forced under your fingernails... unless, of course, you agree to give oodles of cash to LOCOG and you sacrifice your first born to Lord Coe.

[John Nex]

In relation to the Gold's Gym and World Gym question, they will have probably licensed the artwork for a third party to produce and distribute. I do quite a bit of work with licensing agents and you will find that big companies licence out their designs and take a percentage of sales rather than bother doing it themselves. i would imagine that someone has quite a tight contract with Gold's and World to supply stores all over the world. if you really wanted to sell them then you could just find out who the wholesaler is and buy them in trade, although that would defeat the print on demand idea!

[TonyMast]

If your "2012 in London" is used in a design that is completely unrelated to London2012, then you may just - if you're supremely lucky and pray to the right gods - get away with it. Just using the phrase, or using the phrase on a design that could be construed as having some connection with London2012 will see you hauled across the coals and hot spikes forced under your fingernails... unless, of course, you agree to give oodles of cash to LOCOG and you sacrifice your first born to Lord Coe.

I know where you're coming from JSR, and it's intresting that they had to create the "Protected by the Olympic Symbol etc (Protection) Act 1995 (OSPA)" to give added protection to copyright design. This to me shows the limits of copyright infringements on non Olympic wording and issues and the difficulty of enforcing it. So the wise thing to do is, stay away from all things Olympic (is the word Olympic copyrighted? pushing it here, hope no one brings it to Lord Coe's attention) Any way I already got rid of my first born in exchange for a trap to catch shrimps .

Nice to banter.

regards

Tony