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As far as I know epson wont touch it as it was used wit subli ink...
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But if you put the genuine cartridges in and it still doesn't work then Epson will assume it's been used for normal ink printing and will touch it.
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but this is lie :biggrin:
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Paul;33381 wrote:but this is lie :biggrin:
But it rarely fails :) Even if you've used none genuine inks, our Epson repair centre will look at the printer for you - might cost £15 for a deep soak in cleaning solution, but it save hours of your time.
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yeah definitly worth to have a go tho ;)
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bms;33380 wrote:But if you put the genuine cartridges in and it still doesn't work then Epson will assume it's been used for normal ink printing and will touch it.
Yeah, because Epson can't tell what ink's been used by looking at the waste pad. No, not at all. They're completely blind in that eye... :wink:
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So when you switch from sublimation ink to standard ink and then back again should you then run through lots of sublimation ink before you print to mugs etc - just want to clarify as I thought it was a big no no to swop between different types of inks on these printers yet there seems to be lots of talk about swapping out the cartridges for the standard ones etc.
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Just print a couple of pages of different colour and this will be okay.
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I have done this trillion times in my epson and never had a problem, (but i dont remomend it as there is possibility of air lock. not nice thing :/ )
When you switch carts printer begin head clean. this is enough to get rid of "other" in out. head hold only little ammount of ink and head clean remove it all. I know that as I had waste ink tank instaled and know how much ink is drain to the tank.
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whitesquizzel;33453 wrote:So when you switch from sublimation ink to standard ink and then back again should you then run through lots of sublimation ink before you print to mugs etc - just want to clarify as I thought it was a big no no to swop between different types of inks on these printers yet there seems to be lots of talk about swapping out the cartridges for the standard ones etc.
Epson printers have their ink cartridges positioned on top of the printhead. The gap between the cartridge outlet and the printhead nozzles is small. On the one hand this can be problemmatic for air blocks but, on the other, it means that changing cartridges isn't a big issue. The "charging" that the printer does when a new cartridge is installed should be enough to ensure that inks don't mix.

Printing a couple of pages of colour would offer peace of mind but it may not be necessary. When you do a nozzle check and compare OEM ink with dye-sub ink, you'll see a marked difference. OEM ink is much more vibrant (brighter) while dye-sub ink is a bit dull and lifeless. If the nozzle check shows the dull and lifeless colour, then dye-sub ink is flowing. If it shows vibrant colour, OEM ink is showing. If it's showing the wrong one after changing cartridges, then print something until it shows the right colours.

Printers that have cartridges remote from the printhead (Brother, Ricoh, etc), have a tube connecting the cartridge outlet to the printhead (a bit like a CISS, only better). While this has the advantage of reducing the risk of air locks, it does mean that ink is in the tube when you change cartridges. If the printer doesn't flush all that ink when the cartridge is changed (and it shouldn't, because it'd be very wasteful), then you'll need to do it yourself - by printing several pages until the right colours come out.

Ideally, though, you'd have a different printer for regular inks and dye-sub inks so you don't need to worry about any of that. Printers are so cheap these days that it's not really worth sharing one for both jobs, and the above info should only apply if you're either changing ink suppliers/brands or you buy a second-hand printer that you want to put dye-sub ink in, or for troubleshooting purposes (including if you're sending the printer back to the manufacturer).
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