Re: iPhone size mobile pouches?
Posted: 05 Sep 2011, 12:37
Thank you Paul for adding to this post - it's always nice to communicate with suppliers 
hI paul good pitch for a minute i thought i was watching an episode of dragons den !!paulhirst;29980 wrote:Hi JSR.....
>And what's all that about a "support jig" and "cooling jig"
Erh ? You need an engineered jig to support the plastic to stop it crushing under the pressure from the heat press, the jig has to be engineered with a couple of thou tolerance to accommodate the shrinking of the plastic so that it fits the iPhone after its imaged and doesn't fall off
>That's £100 you're out before you even buy any cases.
Yup thats right £100.00 so that you can enter a market and sell covers to the 20+ million people that have iPhones at about £15.00 - £17.00 each giving you a profit of about £10.00 per case
>Only a fool would invest so much money in these cases with the iPhone 5 due out soon
There must be a lot of fools then as we have taken pre booked orders for 1000's of them and 2 of the UK's largest retailers are launching the product. Most people that are in business will not see a few hundred pounds as a barrier to entry, and yes as soon as the iPhone 5 is out people will have to spend another couple of hundred pounds to get some more jigs and then they will be able to sell lots more decorated cases at great margins without investing about 30 grand for a 3D system
>No wonder the prices are so high - so they can rake in money from the early investors, knowing that they'll have to pay all over again for iPhone 5 cases.
First off you have to pay for a special tool making for the injection molding Cost about £15k you then have to get the parts shipped to the UK and coated twice once for sublimation and then the edges painted You have several lots of shipping, you have waste, you have tooling costs to recover, you have packaging, you have to use a special blend of plastic (expensive) to take the heat.
Seriously though JSR I do find your logic here quite bizarre, you think a few 100 pounds investment to be able to produce top quality products that can be sold to 1000's of different markets is an issue ? maybe you are underselling yourself and the benefits of short run digital imaging .....
personally i think JSR had some very good points i struggle to sell neoprene phone socks at £5.00 let alone £15-£17 i have also not long returned from a trip to California where in the malls there, there are barrowboys selling iphone cases plastic very similar to the ones in question they are stunning and they are around $5.00 each i know i bought the daughter one.
Agreed you need to spend a lot on the machineary to produce the jigs etc but then you could apply the same logic that you want JSR to apply
quote "First off you have to pay for a special tool making for the injection molding Cost about £15k you then have to get the parts shipped to the UK and coated twice once for sublimation and then the edges painted You have several lots of shipping, you have waste, you have tooling costs to recover, you have packaging, you have to use a special blend of plastic (expensive) to take the heat."
its a bit rich to pull JSR for complaining about the price to manfature and then do the same yourself!
I think Paul what you need to remember is the vast majority of members of this forum are very much small time and are not able to churn out items by the thousand in the hope of turning £1000,s in profit.
personally i know my market place and i know that at £17.00 per phone case i'm highly unlikly to sell many if any at all believe me id be the first with £500 in my grubby mits if i thought it were possible i may be totally wrong JSR may be totally wrong we all may be totally wrong but to come on and shout down JSR for what is your potential customers opinion will only serve to to alienate any potential customers you may gain from this forum .
Again this is solely my opinion i wish you well but in the words of mr Banertine
"i think its ridiculas and im out "
Brett
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