new to di sub-Which Ricoh should I use for start-up

[whitesquizzel]

OK thanks - am so fed up with the Epson as I get horizontal lines every time I use it - despite cleaning and cleaning the head (and not cleaning in case I am over cleaning) Its just really stressy as I never know whether I am going to be able to do an order on time as it depends on how long the printer takes to behave - sometimes a couple of days. Am hoping this wont be the case with the Ricoh?
In reality I think I should of gone with a Ricoh originally as I am not doing big volumes as yet that require me to use the printer every day which I think is what the Epson needs really - a rather expensive mistake sadly as if i had known I could of paid a little more and got the Ricoh in the first place although lets hope I dont end up regretting that as a purchase for a different reason LOL. I wish dye sub printing was a little easier sometimes

[JSR]

If you're used to doing 13" wide (A3+) prints on your Epson printer, you might want to check if the new Ricoh is capable of printing that wide. I think the last one was limited to A3 (11.7" wide) paper.

[bms]

You could get a bypass tray for the GX7000 which enabled it to take 13" (A3+) paper and this also enable long lengths to be accommodated. Should be the same for the GX7700 when available.

[JSR]

You could get a bypass tray for the GX7000 which enabled it to take 13" (A3+) paper and this also enable long lengths to be accommodated. Should be the same for the GX7700 when available.

Do the Ricoh print the full 13", then? Seems odd to have the ability to print 13" wide, but only supply a paper tray capable of 11.7" wide paper.

[bms]

Agree, but bypass tray allows the slightly wider print AND much greater length.

[JSR]

Agree, but bypass tray allows the slightly wider print AND much greater length.

Ricoh are crazy. Don't they think they'd sell more printers if they put the right tray with it to enable it to print A3+ out-of-the-box? Perhaps they just don't want to sell any...

[bms]

Ricoh are crazy. Don't they think they'd sell more printers if they put the right tray with it to enable it to print A3+ out-of-the-box? Perhaps they just don't want to sell any...

Possibly, but I think Ricoh (a) are small players compared to EPSON, HP and CANON, (b) see the Ricoh A3 as a business printer where A4 and A3 are more standard and (c) sell the bypass tray for banner printing. Just my thoughts.

[John G]

When you buy a car do you always get a top of the range Bose sound system FOC - no its an optional extra. The Ricoh tray is exactly that, an optional extra - you don't need it to print A3.

[JSR]

Well, clearly I'm the only one who thinks it's silly to develop a 13" wide printer that can't print 13" wide out of the box.

13" carriage Epson printers aren't crippled so that you can't print 13" out of the box. If a 13" wide Epson printer can support roll paper, you're supplied with the attachments in the box - they're not extra. If the Epson printer can print CDs, they don't expect you to buy the CD tray as an "optional extra". Yet people say that Epson are the spawn of the devil for their high prices.

All I can conclude is that Ricoh know that they've priced the printer too high in the first place and so cripple it in order to price it more favourably in the market against competitor printers that can print 13" wide "out of the box" - knowing that, in order for you to print the same as that competitor, they'll get more money out of you when you buy the "optional extra".

What next from Ricoh? A 13" wide printer supplied only with the parts that let you print A4? :rolleyes:

I'm surprised Ricoh haven't stooped to the "Lexmark selling practice" of only supplying the three coloured inks in the box and no black, just to keep the price low in the knowledge that you'll go out immediately to buy a black ink.

[Paul]

I am with Jonathan on this one is no much to do with me as I am not ricoch user and I wont be but for me it looks silly too

When you buy a car do you always get a top of the range Bose sound system FOC - no its an optional extra. The Ricoh tray is exactly that, an optional extra - you don't need it to print A3.

I think is more like buy a 4x4 car with no wheels you need to buy them as a extra to go for off roading