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Re: CMYK colours

Posted: 29 Jul 2011, 11:09
by kris_hm
woow. very good point John ! So it's still not the ideal solution for full colour, as cleaning every screen after colour could be a pain...
now I understand better the flash dryer function. but with flash dryer won't get full colour :(

Re: CMYK colours

Posted: 29 Jul 2011, 12:06
by John G
As shown on the video, you do print wet on wet - without flashing each colour - what i'm saying is by doing it this way there'll be a build up of ink which will need cleaning after lets say every every 10 shirts. you would do this in situe and it wouldn't effect the position - just a rub underneath with a duster and a few prints through to get going again. This is also on a white shirt - do that on a black shirt and you'll need to put down a clear/white base which has to be flashed.

I do screen print t'shirts for a living but have never done full colour work on garments - only card, paper or plastics.

tbh, now with the advent of direct ink/laser, sub and transfers there's little point in full colour screen printing as the set up costs are horrendous.

Re: CMYK colours

Posted: 29 Jul 2011, 12:20
by Paul
John do you think off contact set would help? So colour go
Only where it supouseto go...

Re: CMYK colours

Posted: 29 Jul 2011, 12:30
by John G
No, it would still transfer a small amount of ink per print to the next screen, which, after a run of prints, would need to be cleaned or rubbed off. If there's blocks of ink and its not touching this would be OK

Re: CMYK colours

Posted: 29 Jul 2011, 13:10
by kris_hm
"tbh, now with the advent of direct ink/laser, sub and transfers there's little point in full colour screen printing as the set up costs are horrendous."

well, I'm not sure if you're right here. I would love to start my own line of t-shirts. I've got all designs and ideas on place. JUst trying to find right way to print them. Sublimation is not good for obvious reason. So the options are: DTG, screen printing and versacaam.
versacaam - still not too good for fashion purposes, only for limited designs. and bit high starting costs
dtg - perfect solution but much too expensive for beginner
screen printing - bit messy :) but for starting costs 2k you are able to print almoust any t-shirt

Re: CMYK colours

Posted: 29 Jul 2011, 13:16
by John G
A customer comes to you and asks for 10 full colour white t's - you say Ok, thats so much per print - oh and by the way, thats + £100 for the screen set up. Thats £10.00 per t'shirt before the first print.

Re: CMYK colours

Posted: 29 Jul 2011, 13:22
by kris_hm
You're right John, that's why I metioned that I want to start my own t-shirt line (brand). So hopefully it would be printing on medium to high volume. same design for local shops, ebay, my website, other places.

Re: CMYK colours

Posted: 29 Jul 2011, 13:32
by John G
If you want to do that I'd wish you the best of luck, but I'd suggest a DTG instead of screen - no mess, no chemicals, no big machinery, no big workshops and just about instant full colour prints. Full colour on t'shirts is an expensive and time taking business, the video makes it looks so easy but what you're not seeing is how much gear you'd need and what's going on behind the scenes.

Cheers John

Re: CMYK colours

Posted: 29 Jul 2011, 13:43
by kris_hm
:frown: why it's always leading to dtg ;(
thanks John :)

Re: CMYK colours

Posted: 29 Jul 2011, 14:04
by John G
If you do want to go down the screen printing route I may have a 4 colour Marler style carousel and an adjustable height tunnel dryer up for sale if I was offered the right price. :biggrin: I'll even throw in 4 screens to get you going.