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The virus does what the yearly 'flu does, more or less.

The only people who are at risk from this virus are those who are already close to death. That is why the average age of death *with* covid is 82 years and four months, with 2.5 serious underlying health conditions on average.

Those who are dying *with* covid would most likely have died *with* 'flu in a "normal" year. Covid is nothing extra.

The "vaccine" isn't a vaccine. It's an EBA (Experimental Biological Agent). By taking it, you will be part of the stage 2 and 3 trials. It does not do what a vaccine does.

This EBA has the effect of reducing the efficiency of a recipient's immune system for about a week after taking it. This is probably why there was a death spike in care homes after the EBA was rolled out there.

*With* covid means this: any person who dies within 28 days of a positive test (real or false) for any reason whatsoever, or anyone who has not been tested but was observed coughing or feeling tired before they die. Hence, the *with* covid death figure you hear each day is utterly meaningless. 120,000 covid deaths? Not even close to that figure.

If you are aged 48 or below, this virus presents zero risk. You may as well carry on as if it doesn't exist.
If you are 49 to 65, there is next to no risk.
If you are above 65, there is nearly no risk.

The government has instructed the NHS to stop releasing various stats, as these stats were rather inconvenient. People were downloading them and putting them into graphs and realising that they were being lied to. Ooops.

The "vaccine" does not exist for the purpose of improving public health. The down-the-line effects of having a population addicted to taking a "vaccine" whenever instructed to do so are disastrous. It creates a situation in which the more gullible people (whom the government likes) will be afforded special privileges, while the less gullible people (whom the government dislikes) will face restrictions.
Those who are refusing the EBA are going on the NHS RIO database to mark them apart.

Covid has several purposes to serve.
It is doing in two years what the "climate emergency" was taking decades to achieve.
It is hollowing out the middle class.
China is taking over.
It allowed for the removal of Trump who, regardless of his faults, was standing in the way.
Something not mentioned is this: the USA is now a failed state, and will collapse on or around the year 2026. This collapse will spread around the world. Covid is being used as a way to massively increase government control in advance of this collapse, as the people who have enormous wealth and power now, want to maintain their wealth and power into the future. Covid does this for them.

Back to the EBA: if you're elderly, then it doesn't matter if you get the jab or not. If you're not elderly, then the harm caused by you getting the jab outweighs any benefit from taking it. Your children will pay for your fear.

If you're afraid of this virus, then there are plenty of things you can do to protect yourself.
Take vitamin D when it's not sunny, and when it is sunny, go outside in the sun. Take vitamin C. Take zinc supplements.
Take a look at ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine prophylaxis.
Whatever you do, don't ask why the government hasn't been recommending these measures, or allowing these treatments in hospitals.

Don't be afraid of covid. It doesn't represent an unreasonable risk. What's coming over the next decade and beyond is way more scary, unless we learn how to say, "no".

pw66;147262 wrote:What really worries me is that all of the media is surprisingly 'on message' about the vaccine, and any questions on social media are very quickly being refuted by people with blank profiles. I don't think we would get to hear of any negative stories if there are any.

You've encountered the 77th Brigade, as we all have.
The 77th Brigade is a unit of the British Army tasked with putting out misinformation in support of Government policy.
They are all over social media.
The idea is to make it seem "normal" to blindly believe authority.

It's quite funny to see them in action. Some of them get quite upset when they are spotted.

On Twitter, they usually go by names such as JohnSmith4932 and have bios along the lines of "Father, conservative, Aston Villa fan, nerd", and so on.

SubOnCotton;147439 wrote: They are all over social media.


It's quite funny to see them in action. Some of them get quite upset when they are spotted.

Surprising how many are married to trained virologists...

I'll more than likely have the vaccine when offered, mainly for the benfit of those around me.

pw66;147446 wrote:I'll more than likely have the vaccine when offered, mainly for the benfit of those around me.

Before you do.......

It's not a vaccine. It doesn't do what a vaccine does. It's an Experimental Biological Agent (EBA).
You will be taking part in phase 2/3 trials.
If those around you have had the jab, then it wouldn't matter anyway.
Do you need it?
Do you think a society in which the population is addicted to taking a jab whenever told, by people who hate them, would be a good society? What on Earth could go wrong!

If a person is elderly, then it doesn't matter if they take it, but for anyone below the age of about 65, the effects on society of complying with this tyranny are going to be really, really bad.
Or to put it another way: the people who are children now will wish, sometime this decade, that those older than them had never even put on a mask, let alone taken a "vaccine".

Our next-door neighbours, who are both NHS health workers in a large local A&E hospital have also been informed that these are just 'jabs,' not vaccines (their words, not mine). In their early 50's, they are also going to refuse these 'vaccines.'

SubOnCotton;147447 wrote:Before you do.......
It's an Experimental Biological Agent (EBA).
You will be taking part in phase 2/3 trials.

This is why I didn't go near twitter when this all started lol. Pretty sure our friend married a guy who is in that 77th Brigade. It had a different name. He wont tell me though...even when I subtly teased him when he was plastered one night!

I think I had something very similar to covid about 2 years ago as did a few other people around me. I'm not going through that again. My girlfriend who is a nurse on a covid ward is looking after a guy who is on day 51 of his hospital stay. No thanks, bye bye business.

My mate, who just happens to be the guy who books everyone in for a jab is on his last day at the job and has got 'spare vacancies' to give away to his close mates. I jumped at the chance.

GoonerGary;147449 wrote:This is why I didn't go near twitter when this all started lol. Pretty sure our friend married a guy who is in that 77th Brigade. It had a different name. He wont tell me though...even when I subtly teased him when he was plastered one night!

I think I had something very similar to covid about 2 years ago as did a few other people around me. I'm not going through that again. My girlfriend who is a nurse on a covid ward is looking after a guy who is on day 51 of his hospital stay. No thanks, bye bye business.

My mate, who just happens to be the guy who books everyone in for a jab is on his last day at the job and has got 'spare vacancies' to give away to his close mates. I jumped at the chance.

Two years ago you had something called the 'flu. 2018 was a bad 'flu season.
Covid is, all data and information about it considered, the same thing in terms of its effects. It's nothing particularly special or new.
In "normal" years, the odd person here and there has a thing called "long 'flu", which is the same as "long covid".

If you're terrified of covid, then you may wish to ignore the down-the-line effects of complying with this tyranny, which is of course more tyranny.

For those who are afraid of the covid but who don't wish to drop their kids in the crap, there are various methods to protect yourself which don't involve inviting more tyranny:
You need vitamin D for a healthy immune system, so supplements work, as does going out in the sunshine.
Zinc tablets help.
Vitamin C helps.

Have a look at ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine prophylaxis.

Don't ask why our government hasn't been posting everyone free vitamin D pills or treating hospital cases with drugs which are known to work against coronaviruses.

Everyone has to make their own choice about this jab, but the down-the-line effects of taking it or not taking it will not evaporate if ignored.

SubOnCotton;147450 wrote:
For those who are afraid of the covid but who don't wish to drop their kids in the crap, there are various methods to protect yourself which don't involve inviting more tyranny:
You need vitamin D for a healthy immune system, so supplements work, as does going out in the sunshine.
Zinc tablets help.
Vitamin C helps.

... Bleach ...

GoonerGary;147449 wrote: I think I had something very similar to covid about 2 years ago as did a few other people around me. I'm not going through that again.

My wife had something very similar around the same time Gary and it was the main cause of her finishing work before taking her retirement. She was really poorly. They hadn't a clue and just assumed it was a virus, or 'ME' (due to extreme tiredness). She was given a CPAP machine for supposed sleep apnoea. Numerous blood tests. She's a lot better now so really it just took a long time to get over it. I'm sure Covid has been around for longer than they say.

Anyway, I take no chances. The way I protect myself is to use cutting-edge medical science: wash my hands while singing two verses of Happy Birthday!

SubOnCotton;147450 wrote:Two years ago you had something called the 'flu. 2018 was a bad 'flu season.
Covid is, all data and information about it considered, the same thing in terms of its effects. It's nothing particularly special or new.

I wasn't sent to see a consultant for a bad flu. After exploring many options, he told me, "there's respiratory viruses out there."

Tyranny or not, ebola or covid. I would expect the government to act the same. If anyone is to blame, it's a computer model and its idiot programmer which predicted Armageddon. The government were relaxed about it all until then. Unfortunately there's nobody to hold China and the WHO to account. They removed Trump.

GoonerGary;147458 wrote:I wasn't sent to see a consultant for a bad flu. After exploring many options, he told me, "there's respiratory viruses out there."

Tyranny or not, ebola or covid. I would expect the government to act the same. If anyone is to blame, it's a computer model and its idiot programmer which predicted Armageddon. The government were relaxed about it all until then. Unfortunately there's nobody to hold China and the WHO to account. They removed Trump.

During 'flu season, there are about 400 respiratory viruses doing the rounds and our immune systems deal with them fine, just like we do with SARS-CoV-2. It's not a dangerous virus compared to what we put up with every year.

The government acted incorrectly in any case. It does not have the right to do what it did.
Our government's own impact assessment of lockdowns (results published then promptly deleted in early April), said that for every life saved by lockdowns, four people would be killed. The South African government put the figure at 29:1.
They knew they would be killing people, but did it anyway. They knew that placing infected patients into care homes would kill care home residents, but did it anyway.

If they'd locked things down for 2 weeks then admitted their mistake, then that could have been accepted.

I've been a political analyst for 20 years, and our assessment is that the whole thing was part incompetence, but mostly by design.
We knew that there would be a financial crisis manufactured for 2020, but it wasn't until November 2019 that I knew it would be called "covid".

China is taking over, Trump had to be gotten rid of, then there's this "Great Reset" thing.
Something never mentioned is that the United States is going to collapse on or around 2026, and covid was a good opportunity for governments to bring their populations under tight control in advance of this. The people with money and power now, want to keep it into the next decades. Unfortunately for us, they are the same people who say that the Earth can only sustain 500 million people, and you can go on Youtube and watch their old conferences in which they talk about using mass vaccination as a way to reduce the world population. It's no great secret. Then there's what the Chinese generals say when they think no one is listening - yikes!

We have a retired professor on our team who has spent 45 years researching the things which have led up to how things are today, but even he is surprised at how bad things have become, so quickly.

I sound awfully like a tinfoil hat-wearing conspiracy theorist, and there are plenty of people who will protect their feelings by calling me exactly that :):)

Anyway, mustn't grumble.