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Re: Sawgrass response to patent expiry query

Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 10:47
by mags1892
pisquee;104430 wrote:But they cite prior art for sublimation patents going back to 1974!
Their patent can only be for A sublimation process - sublimation ink and dysperse dyes have existed longer than Sawgrass.
they have but sawgras patented first other were rather silly.

Re: Sawgrass response to patent expiry query

Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 10:53
by JetStreamDigital
Mags, I'd be interested in your feedback after reporting the inks I posted earlier in this thread.


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Re: Sawgrass response to patent expiry query

Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 10:57
by mags1892
JetStreamDigital;104436 wrote:Mags, I'd be interested in your feedback after reporting the inks I posted earlier in this thread.


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Keep watching them

Re: Sawgrass response to patent expiry query

Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 11:05
by JetStreamDigital
I'm referring to the website Mags, eBay is a different kettle of fish. VeRO status puts all the power in the account holders hand, rightly or wrongly.


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Re: Sawgrass response to patent expiry query

Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 11:05
by JetStreamDigital
mags1892;104419 wrote:One of sawgrases patents is for the SUBLIMATION PROCESS hence noone else can use the term sublimation without a license.

http://www.google.com/patents/US8628185
What exactly is innovative about a 'method'?


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Re: Sawgrass response to patent expiry query

Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 12:32
by mags1892
JetStreamDigital;104441 wrote:What exactly is innovative about a 'method'?


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Beats me I didnt grant the patent dont shoot the mesenger im as perplexed as you beleive me I could sell a MASSIVE amount of sublimation ink if the patent expired I have access to some amazing stuff.

Re: Sawgrass response to patent expiry query

Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 16:52
by pisquee

Re: Sawgrass response to patent expiry query

Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 17:54
by mags1892
Seems you sell the same ink as I do Pisquee ;)

Re: Sawgrass response to patent expiry query

Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 18:09
by pisquee
Yup, started selling Inktec on Ebay back in 2011, when there was very little sublimation ink on there, and what was there was cheap unbranded Chinese stuff. I was the only one selling a quality brand and surviving Sawgrass' idle threats. I was doing very well, before loads of other sellers noticed and copied, with the bottom then falling out of the market, and I had the best match for "sublimation ink" for a few years, until our main business got too busy to concentrate on it, and keep up with all the ink sales/advice enquiries, especially when some calls were over half an hour and then I could see from feedbacks that they went and bought from another seller! Have recently decided to get back in the game though.

Re: Sawgrass response to patent expiry query

Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 18:36
by mags1892
Yip I know ive been selling inktec for many years also as well as pigement ink and as a epson authorised reseller and engineer its a nightmare lol. I also was undercut by a couple of people and had to drop my prices I also sell a higher end ink but only to the very large format guys with fast machnes like the Monna Lisa proper sublimation kit ;). I sell the epson machine too obviously with epson sublimation ink .