Lasr printers for mugs?

[bms]

I do know from experience that the laser transfer process to mugs isn't as good as sublimation - even TMT ackowledge this. I don't have a huge knowledge of what works and doesn't work with the CPM onto mugs, so it might be worth a call to TMT next week.

[alanw15]

Well, my attemt at glazing them went slightly on the wrong side, kind of heated them to long and mugs turned bronw. @nd attempt was better but nowhere close to the finish sublimation cups are.

So my next question

CISS systems, provided they are made for the relevant printes will they work with Sublimation inks or do i need a special CISS system.

Im looking at the EPSON S21 printer and found the CISS for it all for £50 delivered so will just need the inks.

Thanks for all you help so far.

[accdave]

I think we should have a big sticky at the top of the board.

DO NOT LET DODGY DEALERS TELL YOU THE EPSON S21 IS SUITABLE FOR SUBLIMATION

[alanw15]

what's wrong with them for sublimation?

[accdave]

Just type S21 in the search option at the top.

[bms]

what's wrong with them for sublimation?

There's no profile for the S21 and as it is the cheapest Epson printer that Epson produce then the quality of the printer isn't very good. Tests with Sawgrass led to too many problems to warrant it being supported.

Often buying the printer and then a CIS can be a false economy. With the S21 you still will end up spending £200 +vat on 4 lots of sublimation ink and then you'll struggle with getting the colours to match correctly as there isn't a profile. Spending a little more would give you a supported printer, CIS and inks fully primed with a colour correction profile as well as support from the dealer that sold you the system in case of problems. The Epson B40W is the Epson A4 model that's supported and for around £320 +vat you get the printer, CIS, Artainium sublimation inks, profile etc.

[alanw15]

i have an Epson R360 inkjet could i use that if they do a profile for it as its just sitting doing nothing?

[bms]

Sorry, the R360 wasn't supported either. Current A4 model is the B40W, A3 is the B1100 or Photo 1400 and then the Ricoh A4 GXe3300 and the A3 is the GX7000.

[Ian M]

DO NOT LET DODGY DEALERS TELL YOU THE EPSON S21 IS SUITABLE FOR SUBLIMATION

Here is proof you can't use the S21 for sublimation!

As I have said before I'm using one with the D88 profile & to be honest I'm finding it better & a lot more reliable than the D120 I was using before. I had one small problem the other week when part of a print was a bit light. I did a nozzle clean & every print since then has been perfect.

Ian

[alanw15]

Those mugs look alot better than my laser prints turned out, kind of a million fold

Im just branching out in this business as i mainly do Vehicle livery and decals etc etc. After buying a colour laser and heat presses etc etc money is now tight so i need something cheap for the moment till i recoup some money.

The colour laser will now be made to print the t shirts etc and use the sublimation just for mugs