VersaCAMM vs White Laser vs Chromaluxe

[socialgiraffe]

I recently asked TMT for a price on printing a batch of CPM using the white toner system. Without seeing the artwork they quoted me £1.00 per page. Now I am pretty sure that was a discounted price as I had ordered the system by then, but I am also pretty sure they will not lose out financially. So if I based it even on £2.00 per page I am still within budget.

[stuart]

One of the guys from TMT told me that by the time we get round to fespa the paper will down in price by £1 a sheet.He also said that they dont sell the a3 version because they are very good yet.
stu

[logobear]

I am happy with my TMT A4 white printer.
I have done analysis of ratio a4 to a3 print, and it was 18 to 1 and many large prints can be made from parts of A4 - so I have not had any issue limited to a4.
As I understand it, the A3 version cannot regulate toner supply accurately, so tmt have withdrawn it until Oki can make it work.
The 'Space Controller' sortware is a great advantage of the TMT solution over the others; it acts as a separate extra driver to put down white where it is needed. I cannot see the printer performing well just from a windows driver!
The process to apply laser transfere white is very easy, but media costs are a bit of a shock, looking forward to lower price, and I understand better look and performance too when the European media becomes available soon.
Another big plus of the Oki 711w is it's small size; i have mine stacked above another laser printer so no extra footprint!

[chongsta]

One of the guys from TMT told me that by the time we get round to fespa the paper will down in price by £1 a sheet.He also said that they dont sell the a3 version because they are very good yet.
stu

Hi all

Yes i was told by TMT at the Printwear show that the papers etc will come down eventually as competition grows. The Rep also told me stay away from the A3 version as they've had problems after 20-30 runs/prints with it! They said that they weren't supporting the A3 just now. He also said that Ricoh are about to bring out a white toner/colour printer around or just after christmas. to be honest im not sure why he was telling me this considering he was diverting business from TMT but I did stipulate that I wanted an A3 printer simply for doing much larger prints. I find the A4 to be too small for my wants, fine for chest badges etc but larger prints is my wish.

now then...at the show i had a sample tshirt from xpres from the A4 OKI in question. Ive worn and washed it about 6 times and alarmingly the print is very cracked in places! If i was a customer who had bought a tee with a decent sized print on it and then this happens after a few washes, I would be a little pee'd of with it!

I went to the Ralawise roadshow who were also showing the a4 OKI but the guy there went through the print/press in a different way, he said that after the print you should stretch the tee to actually crack the print...and then re-press it for a few seconds. This crack/re-press puts the print into the weave of the garment better! Is this the way to do it? Xpres didnt do this when they demo'd it to me.

for now im sticking to my ultra thin PU vinyl from grafityp

cheers
Dave

[smo]

You should certainly stretch the white tonor print after pressing, I dont believe you should stretch it to the point of cracking though.

[logobear]

the more we do, the more i think you have got to get it to the point of cracking..... crack and refuse it b4 the client gets it.
Apparently the new machine produced product available soon is much more robust ...